Ovtune frustration and failure

me neither i think we agree

 

If you email us your issues we can help you get it setup and figured out.
We even have a program to log onto customers computers and help / find what issue they are running into. Sometimes that can take a little time to get to though, but we have no problem helping hget it setup.

 

@Color_Me_Taco

Settings/Update and Security/Windows Security/Virus and Threat Protection/Virus and Threat Protection Settings/Manage Settings/Real Time Protection/Off/Yes (temporarily, don't forget to turn it back on)

Start Menu/OVTuned (program file)/"Opposite Click" on OVTune Flash Manager/More/Run as Administrator/Yes

Help/Update

Tuning/P5Flash Utility/Copy System ID

 

after he turns off anti I would restart then to go to ovtune personally

 

I'm pretty sure AV turns back on after a restart...

 

after a disable? how annoying if true

 

This user actually got his system ID to us this morning with our help so I think the issue is taken care of.

 

I think I ran into the same problem. I read the directions and watched the video multiple times. If nothing is coming up, just make sure you pressed the Start button twice. I think that's what it was. From reading or watching, I think it seemed like I should press it once, but then I realized I didn't press it enough.

 

That's really odd that he's acting like he hasn't.



You got any of those reg keys????

 

It seems like it happened once this thread picked up some steam. The OP was multitasking.3

 

Post 18 where I admitted to finding the ID I was looking for. Then it turned into something more.

 

This is false, most actually are virus’s or contain malicious code which is why your antivirus detects a signature.

If the virus does not have a signature it won’t be detected. The fact that a signature exists means it’s known malicious code.

Since most tunes are built using non-secure tools and don’t follow secure programming practices you get a very dangerous piece of software.

This doesn’t mean that every piece of code is actively exploiting a system but very well could and you’d never know.

For all you know your PC is now mining for bitcoin under your nose.

 

Gosh, this whole time I was under the impression that Defender was flagging OVTune because the name literally has the word VIRUS in it.

 

Hahaha! If only my 'puter was working that hard.

In my experience, I have yet to see tuning software that doesn't get flagged as a virus or similar and do anything malicious. TS, OVT, FORScan, and one other that is slipping my mind all generate warnings. I tend to agree that this is the case:

I can't even say how many times that other reputable programs have set off an a/v warning.


The issues that our fam had are generally related to data breaches on websites. Your experience could be very different.

 

The hollywood idea of a virus is why people think they don't have a virus, if there isnt a skull and crossbones on the screen then it's ok right?

Most virus's today are set up to gather information, whether it's key strokes, website usage, personal information or used to mine bitcoin or even just sitting idle as a bot waiting to be used during off hours, this is typically in the early hours of the morning. Trust me, your PC doesn't have to work hard.

The whole point is so that you don't actually know that you have one or what it's doing.

Hackers today are going to stores and buying electronic devices like camera, GPS, and loading virus to the device software and then returning them. The next consumer buys it and goes to load the driver and software and they don't even realize they just loaded a bitcoin miner. This is a true story by the way. So the reputable Garmin GPS device you bought from the reputable BestBuy was compromised before you bought it.

I'd love to know what reputable software company had their software flagged as a virus.

Anyways, back on topic, I just don't want misinformation getting out there.

 

Yikes. So, I am guessing that you didn't do the TSB tune out of worry?

I shut down my machines when not in use,have to trust in the a/v program to take care of the quarter million files that I cannot possibly keep track of, and fraud protection on our credit cards for the rest. I'm honestly not going to worry about infected device drivers. Although, I usually download them versus using the out of date stuff that comes with items.


There were several programs bought by my old companies that were flagged as viruses. I can't recall which specific ones, but they required allowing them to operate as suspicious.


In the end, I am not going to live in fear but will minimize my footprint.

 

I've been in cyber for 15 years, why would I worry.

 

Our software uses a protection mechanism, anti debugger mechanism, and code compression mechanism that is also known to be used in viruses. Therefore, some anti viruses flag it as a virus.
Upload it to virus total, you'll see it's hit and miss depending on what software scans it.

The entire protection API is listed as malicious by some anti viruses simply because this API is used in the bad software category. Why? because it is very good at hiding what the software is actually doing.

Google Themida for example. Robust anti reversing tool that is also auto flagged as a virus when a software is built with it, because it prevents an AV from scanning.

 

I've been on the user side for 30yrs along with IT admin for about 10yrs (weaksauce rating working on a shoestring budget) and have had less problems than other folks that I know. I could just be getting lucky?

I wasn't and am not as deep as you probably are and am not saying that you are wrong in any way. But again, I just measure my risk, online and in real life. I have gained a lot of value from the programs that I have whitelisted and see no reason yet to change course.

I did take most of the foil off once I purchase a smartphone though. Prior to, I was a bit dysfunctional with worry. Now, I just accept more risk with access to more data.

It's all good.

 

You do you man, I’m just throwing it out for everyone else reading the thread.