Bilstein 5100 + eibach coils maxed out

There is always that one person in the thread..

 

lol depends on the spring. If the spring rate is LINEAR than the 600ftlb rate is constant throughout the entire compression. if you take 2 springs
A. 13" 600lb rate
B. 20" 600lb rate
and jam spring B into the perch of a 5100, you arent going to get "7 inches of lift". period. (yet I get called a douchebag for being steadfast in defending this point lol)

why?

Because the SPRING RATE of 600lbs is the same for both, so spring B. is going to compress in the perch identical to spring A. except now you are just going to have a shit load of coil bind to the point it will not work. its simply more spring to spread the compression over, but its all the same.

but if you increase the spring rate, increase the spring size and then tried the same thing with spring B. you may just blow the strut to pieces or maybe whatever its bolted to in the truck. There are limits to these increases, and Eibach is insistant on pushing them to the limits of acceptability for some reason, and relies on customers either not thinking or trusting anecdotal stories from message boards about how
"its ok xxxxx did it and hes fine".


A "progressive" springs rate changes through its compression. The first few inches may be 600ftlbs, and the last few inches of travel in the springs compression maybe like 650lbs lol but please lets not get into that tonite

 

Because it’s the absolute MAX the CVs can handle for the least amount of time with any abuse. Plus the ride is crap

 

Don’t agree. Been there done that and have all the necessary upgrades and then some.

3” is not fun for trail riding at the least.

 

Longer springs and that's what manual locking hubs are for

 

the springs were eibach right? it might be printed on the spring-coil body. I feel like i read once that kit has some wonky spring rate like 742ftlbs.

 

winner. The technical back-wall of suspension modding on any given vehicle.

 

The site only says these springs have a 10% higher spring rate than stock.....

 

It’s the angles of the CVs that are concerning. Who actually enjoys redoing those that often? Even with a lift and shop I would imagine, or at least hope one would have better things to do with his time. 2” vs 3” is negligible, just like 1.5” vs 2”. So many people are concerned about form over function it’s sickening.

Nobody is gaining anything from 3” of lift from 2” except less $$$ in the long run and work out components

 

A set of these bad boys will take away. All problems

 

Agree, that's why I changed my mind from 3 to 2 inches, it's not worth the money it takes to go to 3.

 

its virtually impossible to find a concrete figure about the TRD-OR factory springs rate. if anyone knows, i would love to know.

 

I'm saying you should not do a 3 in lift without doing the supporting mods.

 

So when u guys are talking about lifts for 3rd gen are you talking lift from stock? Like a 2 in lift from stock yields a true 3 in lift because of the stock 1 in lift?

 

Whatever your priorities are man. Like I said it ain’t worth it. That $1200 will be $10k for me in less than 4 yrs. I’ll keep the $ and make it work for me...like I said. 3” does nothing for anyone vs 1.5” or 2”.

Tires would be a better use of the $

Function over form.

 

Basically the fender to center of wheel on an offroad is 21”. Each inch of lift is just that

 

If a piece of poop can make it to a higher trail because some how my 3" lift can't make it up there, I will applaud that piece of poop.

Function over form is for oldies 101.9 fm lol

 

Yes I'm targeting getting to 23 inches.
I'm currently at 24 and 23.75

 

That comment makes me think that you honestly believe that your 3” of lift vs someone with 1” or even 2” will wheel better.

A better set of rubber will wheel better on a stock truck than a 3” lifted truck with shit tires.

I think you think 3” is better because it “looks” good. Function is everything over form

 

You need to back those shocks off the highest perch down to 1 or 2