Bilstein 5100's with stock 2018 TRD OR coils on Second Gen (2009) ?

Hello all,

I plan on installing Bilstein 5100's with stock 2018 TRD OR coils on my Second Gen (2009) 93K. No plans to off-road and looking to get at most an 1-1.5" of height on my fully stock 2009 Tacoma TRD Sport. Only current upgrade are 2018 TRD OR rims (265/70/16).

Does anyone on here have experience with this same setup? How much lift can I expect on "0" setting as I read somewhere that I can probably get one inch lift just with the TRD OR springs alone? If that's true then I'm good leaving the 5100's on "0" setting as I just want a little more clearance. Trying to maintain the feel of stock height.

Thanks all

 

I'm hoping to do the same. From what I've read, 3rd Gen coils will net about 1" of lift......

 

If you set the 2nd gen 5100s @ the .85" perch and run a 3rd gen coil you will be at 1.85" lift which should yield a nice ride and height. the perch heights on the 2nd gen 5100s with a stock coil are 0, .85, 1.75, and 2.5. I would try a 3rd gen coil and .85" perch or get toytec/eibach 620s and run the 5100s at the zero setting yielding 1.6" lift. The 620s give you the whole 1.6" of lift.

...I ran my truck with stock 2nd gen coils @ 1.75" height then went up to 2.5" height and it was a decent ride but I didn't realize how bad it was until I went to my current setup.

 

Thanks, I'll definitely look into those Toytec/Eichback 620's. Do you happen to have photos of your ride with that 1.6" lift?

 

I'm hoping to decide very soon as I have an appointment to get the work done in about a week. I'll keep you posted.

 

just get 3rd gen OR take off low miles that's already assembled. not much difference 5100 w stock coils.

 

i actually do not because I’m actually on a 6 inch set up using the 620 coils and RCD 4.5” 5100s so my current set up is yielding 6.1 inches of lift in the front. If you want some pictures at 1.75 inches in stock coils I have those in my build

 

This has been said numerous times like its an easy task. I have searched my local craigslist daily and have never seen anyone selling their takeoffs.

 

Depends on local cali we get everything

 

That's exactly what I purchased: Came off a stock (7k miles) 2018 TRD OR rims, fronts with coils/ rear shocks and leaf. I thought about swapping everything AS-IS with my 2009 ride but wanted to see if at least switching to 5100's shocks all around would make a difference compared to 2018 OR suspension if I was just planning to set Bilsteins at 0 with said coils. Do you happen to run this setup?

 

What's considered Take-Offs? Would Suspension taken off at 7k miles fall into that category or is it something with very low miles let say under 100 miles? Purchased my suspension set (7k miles) front w/coils, rear shocks, leaf, UCA"s and rims all stock from a 2018 TRD OR Tacoma

 

Take offs just term for stock parts pulled from vehicles regardless of miles. 7k miles still low a lot of life left it also depends on previous owner usage/condition.

 

There's no set definition here so best not to overthink it. I recently bought 3rd gen shocks, coils, leafs and UCA's with about 15k on them for $100. Considering my truck has 190k on it there's pretty much no difference for me if they have 2 miles or 20k miles, they're dirt cheap and brand new compared to what was on my truck.

 

I purchased all the things you mentioned and plan to install all onto my Second Gen. Assuming you installed all the mentioned items did you notice a slightly taller, even stance? Maybe an one inch taller? Does the UCA bolt on without issues and did you notice a difference in the UCA?

 

Just debating so hard wether to just install the 3rd Gen shocks and coils with low miles or purchase 5100's all around and set fronts to 0 setting.

 

1.5+ inch lift up front (but should settle down a little) & uca will fit the same. are the front coils already assembled to strut if thats the case id just put them one. if you get 5100 you need to compress the coils from old set just another hassle and reuse old top mount or buy new ones.

 

My situation isn't a very good control test.

My truck had a 3"/1" "leveling" kit on it when I bought it. So I don't actually have a measurement for the stock height. I removed the 3" (1.5" thick) spacer from the front and installed the 3rd gen coilovers + a 3/4" (3/8" thick) spacer.
The net result was:
LF: 1 7/16" lower
RF: 1/ 2/16" lower

If you assume the 1:2 lift ratio for spacers is exact then you can do some math to figure out what effect the 3rd gen suspension did.
Per this math, on my truck, the 3rd gen suspension netted:
LF: 13/16" lift
RF: 1 2/16" lift

With that said, I have not measured it again to see if it had "settled". I hear that term thrown around a lot here so I suppose I should believe it's true. However, my natural inclination is to think that suspension does not "settle". I've lowered/lifted regular cars and swapped suspension and never, ever had suspension "settle". But, I'm not familiar with trucks at all. I should probably wait a couple more weeks and re-measure to see if mine settles.

I did a fair amount of research about the 3rd gen swap before doing it and based on those threads it seemed to me that most people got an inch or a little less. I don't think anyone saying they got 1.5" measured correctly.

Regarding the UCA's... Honestly, the ones that came off my truck looked damn good. The ball joint boot had some wear but the bushings looked surprisingly good for 190k miles. But, I don't know the history, they could have been replaced. The previous owner lifted it and said he had a friend who was a Toyota tech do it. In addition to the lift spacers/blocks that were on it, it had brand new TSB leaf springs and TRD OR shocks instead of the Sport ones it came with from the factory. There's a chance that the tech swapped in lower mileage UCA's when he did that other work.

The UCA swap was pretty easy. You'll need some BIG channel locks to bend some sheet metal but if you're a good wrench it should be a very easy job.

 

Not local.
But they come up in the 3rd Gen Market Place at times.
https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/oem-2020-suspension.648985/

 

Wow, Thanks a bunch for all that info.

Measured stock height:

L Front: 35"
L Rear : 36 3/4"
R Front: 34 3/4"
R Rear 36"

I'm leaning towards installing Front 5100's set at 0.85" with Stock 3rd Gen coils, Rears 5100's also with Stock 3rd Gen Leafs (maybe this will get me an 0.5- 3/4 ' lift). Hopefully this setup will even out the stance or close to it. Not a huge deal to me if front is 0.5-3/4" taller than rears. I honest like it that way versus all corners same height as I don't off-road and hardly ever have heavy loads.

 

Looks like your measurements are from ground to fender, the more universal measurement is from axle center to fender as this removes the affect of different tire sizes.

in my experience, if the ground to fender measurements are even front to back the truck will look like it has a little Bro Lean. That’s how mine was with the 3”/1” leveling kit. Personally I think some rake looks best and I do haul heavy loads so I wanted the rear higher. That’s why I kept the rear where it was and lowered the front about 1.5”.

The 3rd gen springs should get you that 3/4”-1” of lift up front and then you can use the 5100s to get more lift.