ADS Off-Road Racing Shocks - Information, Pictures, & BS Thread

I'd love to get a measurement to confirm.

People say they have them.

Headstrong has them as an option.

 

Yeah my headstrong invoice definitely says extended travel on it.

 

That's the spring you were just having convo. about lmao! Allows them to make the rebound stack much lighter without harsh topouts from not having limit straps

 

It was explained as "jounce", which is uptravel, bottoming out the shock. So you're saying that it's actually the opposite of how it was explained? lmao!

I was wondering why they would do that side of the stroke instead of the extension side. Bump stops on the a-arm should take care of that.

 

Correct, tech taken from buggy air shocks or something like that. Somewhere in the last couple pages someone posted a little gif off instagram that shows all the internals and you can see the spring in there. If you look at that post on ig (mcmasterfabber - the living legend that does r/d and rebuilds for ADS) he even explains it in the comments pretty much same way i did iirc. I'm impressed with the idea as it utilizes the limited space very well in comparison to limit straps, really cool stuff

 

I apologize if I shared any incorrect info. I'm just a noob trying to make it

That IG image is dope

 

Having an internal spring in the damper to slow it down before internal metal to metal contact at full extension seems like a great idea at first glance. The coilovers on my car give me a heck of a clank when I catch air in it, obviously no limit straps on that.

Wouldn't that limit the effective damped and sprung down travel versus limit straps and nullify the last bit of travel with the internal and main spring fighting each other in opposing directions at the very bottom. In a rock crawling low speed situation, I'm wondering if you can even get full down travel without having momentum in the system to force the wheels to the edge of extension. Seems like it might be more of an engineers solution to customers that just want to take a couple bolts out and swap something new in without giving any proper thought to a complete working as a system. Sounds like it is geared towards a cadillac ride vs real trail capability.

 

Dude, no worries.

I'm all noob with this truck too. But I like to think I have a decent grasp on suspension geometry and its effects on handling. Try asking a distributor for a good explanation of scrub radius and how their product will effect that, good luck. I've read for hundreds of hours on here and hadn't registered that the internal spring was a thing, and I don't have time to read this whole thread at the moment. You explained the right thing, but in the wrong direction at whatever late hour it was, whatever. It got me to the right answer a few hours later. Thanks for helping. Facepalm wasn't for you, FYI.

 

I would really appreciate it if someone that has the extended travel version of ADS's bolt on coilovers could jack up their truck and measure the distance between the bottom cap on the shock body to where it will contact the interior of the lower spring perch . I suspect that everyone has a 4.5" distance and there is not an extended travel option even though Headstrong offers it.

Thank you, please, change my mind.

 

I have been following this thread for the past few days. I have sitting in my garage a full set of ADS extended clicker shocks and coil overs. Just need to install them. My thoughts on this is that are the people that are not as happy with them maybe lifting the truck to much? An IFS truck can only give so much. I tell you what though. I travel 6 hrs on the highway to get to the good dirt trails and I do not miss my lifted wandering, guzzling, death wobbling money pit of a Jeep. I don’t get all the flex that the Jeep offered but instead get a really nice ride all around. The Taco takes me where I want to go just like the Jeep did. I’m curious though if extension of the shock is limited and how much it is with the extension dash jarring prevention spring in place. My set up currently is Bilstein 5100s in the front and holy crap do they make a thud that comes all the way through the dash when I extend them to the maximum. So if these ADS coil overs effectively prevent that and maintain adequate extension of the coilover, my hat is off to ADS.

 

Keep in mind it’s not that simple. The body of the shock can go into the bottom perch spring mount. Mine measure 5”. Maybe 4 7/8”

 

Mine are laying on a table in my garage waiting to get installed too. I'll be setting whatever I use to 1.5-2" of lift over stock. Probably the former, I'd still like to have some down travel.

Would you be willing to get a tape measure and measure the dimension I specified in the post above yours? You might be able to settle my question of whether I got sent the wrong coilovers or not.

 

Alright. Measured some stuff. Hopefully did it how you asked. Shoved the tape measure into the spring perch and then measured and took some pics for ya. The last pic is to just show you where I rest the tape measure. On the flat spot in the spring perch where the holes are.

 

PN

 

Sorry, I cross posted at the same time as you.

 

So what’s the verdict?

 

Our measurements are the same. 4" to the top edge of the spring perch on the outside and 4 5/8" measuring internally.

EDIT:
Per ADS Tyler:
The coilovers are setup to have metal to metal contact between the threaded bottom cap of the coilover and the bottom spring perch.

Their extended travel travel coilover has 4.625" of travel. 1/8" more than their standard travel coilover. .265" less than a Fox extended travel, and .445" less than a stock Bilstein/Toyota strut.

That's .935" less wheel travel than stock.





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Hopefully they didn't set them up to hit metal to metal there, so 4.5 in of max travel seems right.

ADS does not offer an extended travel front coilover for a 2nd gen Tacoma. Even though Headstrong says they do.

 

Tyler told me that their extended travel is their standard part number. I haven't seen the part number you have at all. Those should net you about 1.2" less overall wheel travel than a stock suspension.

 

Thanks for getting those pics. You clarified what I suspected.

 

Interesting, So its best then to stick with stock. Stock for the 3rd gen front is 22.17 extended and 17.1 collapsed making 5.07" total travel. Even the iconic Bilstein 5100s have less travel then stock. 22.2 extended and 17.58 collapsed yielding 4.64" LOL I have wasted so much money