Who will be first? Electric Trucks

American productions is currently outpacing imports. Ie we have no dependence on foreign oil.



Notice consumption continues to increase. That won't trend down with electric vehicles.

My QUESTION was, why do individual people get all excited about electric cars. Some people have given me good answers.

 

12 hours to charge at 220V?!

 

Did you see the video of the 1906 Stanley Steamer? Steam power is greatly more efficient than the internal combustion engine, leaps and bounds better. But it fell out of favor because, unlike steam, I can jump in an ICE car and go anytime I want.

The Tesla 3 costs $35000 and takes 12 hours to charge at 220V. That's a HUGE drawback right there...

 

More like 7-11 with 7kW, if you are traveling you are gonna be stopping at a supercharger. Charging is free a lot of places as well, which probably will change when it gets more adopted. I considered one for awhile because of the free charging, but the repair times turned me off if you have trouble. That wouldn't be as much of an issue with a big player involved. Obviously it is not for everyone, but progress is happening. I'm not sure why so many people get all boomer about this topic. It's not going to replace combustion any time soon.

 

I literally just read 12hrs at 220V after googling Tesla 3, so forgive my confusion.

And your second I quoted... not replacing the ICE anytime soon means it can't be as good... so why's everyone going crazy for them?

I am not opposed to the technology. I simply see no proof of concept.

 

Because some people are technophiles, some want to be more environmentally friendly (power industry is headed that way, scrubbers on coal not shutting down in the near future, small modular reactors in the future), some like me see charging for free, lots of other reasons as well. It's cool to see new tech pushing forward, we have seen a lot of that in the generations alive today. Pretty cool time to be alive.

Battery tech alone has pushed forward significantly, sorry if I don't care about you seeing proof of concept. It's been very much appreciated in the power industry.

 

As I stated above, battery technology has been in use by the Navy to power submarines since 1900. This technology is nothing new. And we continue to have the internal combustion engine because no technology exists that gives you more efficiency for the price point. Never has been.

The fact that you don't see my care "proof of concept" tells me all I need to know. Some people want new stuff just because it's new and exciting even if it may not be the best yet.

Too much information, not enough thinking.

I'm going to bow out of this one now. My head is beginning to hurt.

 

Battery tech has come a long way since 1900 and is still evolving, some exciting new patents were just filed that look very interesting. Mind me asking what engineering degree you have?

 

I have a Bachelor's in Business Administration and am a Firefighter/Paramedic by trade. No engineering degree.

Your question is a thinly veiled attempt at mockery by the way, but I'll bite just out of curiosity.

 

It was genuine interest and not mockery. I'm an electrical engineer by trade in the power industry. Technology has rapidly changed our entire industry. I get the opportunity to visit over 100 year old hydro plants to brand new combined cycle, wind, and solar generation. Battery tech is extremely important in all these technologies, you can't operate any of them without it. We aren't sitting on our butts with 1900s batteries even in the 100 year old dams.

 

But in your last post you said battery technology continues to evolve, and there are exciting new patents. But how many patents were there for flying machines before the Wright Brothers?

If the industry is evolving and new technologies are still in patent form, why aren't people stopping and going "hmm, lets see what develops from here." Instead, they see an electric truck spin 360 degrees in dirt and they lose their shit. Suddenly everyone wants something that will probably be obsolete in 10 years, based on the pace of technology.

Do you understand what I'm asking? It's genuine curiosity coupled with reason. Theory and practice are two different things. I'm not going to freak out over what could be until I see that it is, in fact, better than what is. I'm obviously the minority here.

Our trucks have wireless charging capabilities. Ever actually used it? No way because it sucks.

 

That's true for most high end tech though, always a price to pay for being a first adopter, we have been going through tech extremely fast. No one wants to buy a computer from 10 years ago. People were spending huge money in the 80s for a computer for what would of become a sh*t box in the 90s. Remembering my Tandy from back then makes me glad we stuck with it cause that wasn't a great experience.

Funny you ask that about the wireless charger, I actually plan on using mine eventually. I am going to swap my charging coil with a better coil from Anker when I get wireless carplay. No point without wireless carplay.

 

SRAM AXS is legit. But it is def a gimmick when a new shift cable costs like $1

 

Good luck with that! My charger is only good at overheating my phone

 

fuck you people are thick lol

Here maybe in bigger bold you'll get it
Not counting the limitations of batteries

Disregard the battery limitations and focus on the electric motor itself as I'm not referring to where it gets its energy source from just the facts about how much more powerful and versatile they are to the traditional internal combustion engine that we're talking about them replacing. Since this was about the future uses of them.

 

The motor is useless without a power source.










Don't be that guy.

 

My main post was why would one want electric motors over gas.

I for one would love it. Whether it be towing or off road. And when I say I'd love it, I mean when the issues surrounding EV are sorted out. Meaning the issues of extended range, charge times, water crossing in the case of off road.

but many of those issues could be solved in the future. Technically the waterproof part is already possible it's just a matter of whether Toyota would go to that level of manufacturing. Sump pumps for instance are submersible with no issues.

I'm an electrician by trade so maybe I'm more educated and see first hand just how capable and versatile electric motors are vs ICE
By all means I will not be giving up my gas powered truck any time soon without the technology being there.

But I certainly hope I get to be a part of that future tech when we have electric cars with extended range like ICE have.

Truthfully I want to see more R&D done towards a hydrogen fuel cell vs batteries.
The current fuel cell tech that Toyota is using in Japan is incredible as it converts hydrogen to electrical energy. It's just as easily filled as gas engines are.
Currently there no infrastructure for it though for refuelling and the cost of it is high. Last I heard it's $60k just for the fuel cell.

 

But I'm talking in the future when these issues are addressed.
By all means currently it's issues outweigh it's advantages.
But as I've said numerous times now, talking speed control, torque output, braking etc electric motors are way better than ICE hence why they are used in many applications like I mentioned.

 

And you illustrate my point so beautifully. They'll be amazing when the technology exists to make an EV more capable than a ICE vehicle.

But it doesn't yet. So why does everyone have a boner for it?

Calm down.

 

And you call me thick... that's what I'm asking. Why get all excited prematurely?