Went to the auto show today to check out the 2020 and I think we’re almost done

Truth

 

I believe it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...etrol-and-hybrid-cars-from-2035-idUSKBN1ZX2RY

 

I fully expect my Taco to be my last ICE. My next truck will likely be electric. Hopefully an all electric Taco is out in a few years, otherwise I'll have to look elsewhere (like the electric f150).

 

You should drive an EV for like a week. I don't think you understand yet.

In fact the ONLY "con" I noticed so far is if you are driving like a total asshole for long periods of time (accelerating super fast at ever single stop light or going over 90mph for 20+ mins on end on the freeway) then your range is reduced a lot (that part does suck). That's literally the only con. Most the time you can drive around for 2-3 days with no charging if you wanted.

Drink the kool-aid and join the future caveman. We're out here smoking porsche 911s in our iphone with wheels, which literally drives you home when you're too drunk to drive.

 

Here is another prediction from the 70's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGB5MMIAVA

 

Don't be so self-righteous. If you don't live inside of a major metropolitan corridor, the charging network doesn't exist. If you live somewhere with cold winters, the battery life goes to shit. If you have to drive significant miles for work, you may need to extend your time away from home each day to stop and top off at a supercharger, which again is near-impossible to find outside of said major metropolitan corridors.

Also, you live inside the reality distortion field that is California - the rest of the world is very different. Extend your perspective, bro.

 

The world is at the very beginning of electric vehicles for the masses so judging their viability based on current infrastructure and technology is the equivalent looking at Orville and Wilbur’s plane and thinking “what a piece of shit”.

 

I'm not saying that the tech isn't viable. What I am saying is that there is absolutely no way that I'll be able to daily drive an EV in 3-5 years when I'm ready to replace my truck, and that this point of view doesn't make me "an ignorant caveman" as some have suggested.

 

State speed limit is 85 in a lot of places, and each city of 50+ k is an average of 2hrs between each. 10-12 hours to get from one end of the state to the other, in a best case scenario. If you leave I90, expect to double the distance between bigger cities. Average 2-4 charging stations in each of those cities, maybe 20 total city wide here (largest city in the state). That makes for a pretty huge con. Unless you’re on one of the coasts, that’s the reality for a lot of people. Not berating your stance, just trying to give a level headed perspective for a decent portion of the nation.

 

10-15 years the majority sold will be electric. That's my guess.

 

Sounds about right...15 years

 

Don't upset the luddites

 

Electric vehicles have been around since the very beginning of the automotive industry. In the beginning (circa 1910) electric vehicles were competitive with ICE. The problem with electrics is battery technology has not improved enough to over take the advantage in energy density that is held by petrol based fuels.

Lithium batteries are a technological dead end. There are some incremental improvements here and coming see: Lithium-Silicon batteries

True Silicon batteries promise to be a revolutionary technology. Anyway that is the hyperbole. Claims of 4 times the storage capacity, at half the weight, cost and charge time are being thrown around. There are startups promising actual products in 1 - 5 years. So say 2025 and before the rubber can hit the road.

Signed,

Hopeful but old enough to remember cold fusion

 

Oh that sucks you don't have electricity delivered to your home? Yeah, most people just let the car sit in the garage overnight anyways while they sleep , in this time you could charge up, for the following day and be good to go for your 150 mile, one way, commute to work the following day.

At any rate, having electricity in the home is nice. You can power electric light bulbs which illuminates the darkness after sun down...wait I have the solution. Buy a honda 220V generator, fill it with gas, and let her charge up your EV car...this is going to be a wayyyyyyy wayyyy better use of that gas you keep buying ($$) to move from point A to B.

 

or you could just go 65 mph and be 100% fine....wait, why the heck are you commuting over 200 miles every single day?!? nevermind the costs and all, just think about your time. sell that place ASAP and move closer to work.

 

Too funny, so much for those experts.


This is a worthwhile watch imo. A little better percentage of accuracy from the early 90’s


https://youtu.be/a2EgfkhC1eo


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Will

 

Every weekend, not day. It’s a big state, we drive a lot here. It’s not uncommon to spend 10 hours on a weekend day to drive out to go through the park (Yellowstone) or out for a hike that’s 4 hours away (one way). Also, 20 below the state speed limit? Thought you would be receptive and capable of being rational. It’s not entirely safe to have a semi come up on you doing at least 10mph faster then you are. So much for alternate points of view huh? I get it, you just believe only your side of things. Makes sense.

 

If the electric vehicle industry really wants to take over the market now served by internal combustion vehicles I think the manufacturers need to get together and agree upon a small set of standard EV battery form factors that can be quickly interchanged at a "swap station". Drive in to the "swap station", out with the old battery and in with a new one, back out on the road in a few minutes minutes or less. Since most EVs carry their battery pack under the floor (to keep the CG low) why not come up with a system that lowers the battery tray down to a point where the entire battery pack can slide out one side while a new pack slides in from the other side. I know this may bother some folks who want to know that "their" battery has not been abused somehow by someone else but... seems like a concept worth investigating.

 

Agreed, same here for day or even weekend ski trips, not a lot of charging facilities available in the dirt parking lots at ski areas. Same goes for visits to field offices during the week, I could be driving two states over and coming back the same evening.

The guy we responded to is more interested in being an inflammatory dildo than having an intelligent conversation on the topic.

 

That was kinda my thought too. Tried to use a more level approach. The concept and tech is certainly there. I’m less likely to try an EV truck then car. With better infrastructure in the Midwest, I’d be more open. 15 years or so? They will probably have it, until then, the state is just too rural and too damn cold in the winter to make it viable with available stations.