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Clutch problem

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by YotaK, Feb 10, 2020.

  1. Feb 11, 2020 at 10:27 AM
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    I drove mine like that for a few years till I got around to popping that big ugly spring out .

    Rather a poor design those plastic bushings but the clutch worked fine other then that just got in the habit of pulling it out with my toe.
     
  2. Feb 11, 2020 at 10:31 AM
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    The last time was me watching when I bled it. After sitting it has pressure but it’s different . Like I’ll go out this evening and get in it and it has pressure but is hard to get it into gear. I may have to push it twice and definitely all the way to the floor. Seems like an extra 2 inches of travel would be great lol
     
  3. Feb 11, 2020 at 10:31 AM
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    If you look closely at the end of the attachment fork you can see it's broken? Maybe not? But it fell apart after removal and would jamb push rod stuck and pedal had to be lifted
     
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  4. Feb 11, 2020 at 11:01 AM
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    What is this spring mod I’ve heard about?
     
  5. Feb 11, 2020 at 11:09 AM
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    If after double pressing the clutch pedal the shift is able to happen, then that sounds like it's not building enough hydraulic pressure for some reason. Typically this is air in the system or air being drawn into the system as pressure is attempted to be built
     
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  6. Feb 11, 2020 at 12:06 PM
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    Ok I hear you. What could I look for if the master and slave are new? Bad hose? What else?
     
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  8. Feb 11, 2020 at 3:12 PM
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    Don’t forget this has happened all 3 times I’ve changed the master and slave cylinders.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2020 at 3:24 PM
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    Yeah, I'm not sure which areas would be more susceptible to developing a pin hole or leak.
    But before I tried hunting down where it could be drawing air in, I would want to be as sure as I could be that it's a hydraulic pressure issue. I think I would go about trying to come to that conclusion by seeing if pumping the clutch pedal, building up additional pressure, does in fact allow you to feel that the clutch is disengaging with extra pressure built through additional pressing of pedal.

    I want to know if building additional pressure through pumping the pedal allows the clutch to disengage sooner in that pedal stroke.
    This is a hard one for me to say and type correctly. Not in Orem Utah by chance are ya? Bring it by, much easier lol
     
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  10. Feb 11, 2020 at 3:26 PM
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    Haha no in Alabama. I think I follow you though.
     
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  11. Feb 11, 2020 at 5:18 PM
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    Sweet, yeah, lol it's happened before believe it or not that someone was only like 30 min away. So I always just ask now, just in case. :D
    I'm not the best at explaining those specific terms and stuff. But you follow what I'm saying. That's awesome, that must mean you have a very high level of understanding, if you're getting me lmao:rofl:
    But yeah, we really wanna see if this is a hydraulic malfunction or mechanical malfunction. And it's hard to explain to test to FEEL the differences.
    Also I don't memba off hand, but have you done the shifter bushing and that stuff? Not that that's the issue, just thinking out loud. More info the better our chances are. Don't worry though we WILL get to the bottom of it:cool::D
     
  12. Feb 11, 2020 at 5:20 PM
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    I haven’t done the shifter bushing. What else are you referring to?
     
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    The bushing breaks down and causes hard to shift symptoms. All sorts of types of shift issues. Yours sounds more on the clutch side of it. But was just curious if you had.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2020 at 5:24 PM
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    No I’ll do that. Is it difficult?
     
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    Sorry I don't know what you do or don't know. So the shifter itself underneath is a plate, that's bolted to top of tranny and that plate houses the shifter bushing and associated clips and retainers. If you already knew, my bad, not trying to question abilities or anything :D
     
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    I have to imagine it’s just under the shifter in the top of the trans
     
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  17. Feb 11, 2020 at 5:25 PM
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    No not at all. I'll look for a link. There might be one in the sticky threads section
     
  18. Feb 11, 2020 at 5:26 PM
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    Yep, if you're doing your own master cylinder and stuff you'll be fine. How's the slave cyl stuff all look? You can tell it's all working 100% with that guy?
     
  19. Feb 11, 2020 at 5:27 PM
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    The slave and the master are new
     
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    That's right. You did the slave too. And it's functioning as it should? You've had eyes on it while someone depresses clutch pedal?

    I didn't see a sticky for the bushing. I'll see if I can find a good thread/post for swapping that out
     

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