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Fox Life!!! Anything Related to Fox Suspension

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by ThaiChillyTaco, Feb 25, 2018.

  1. Feb 10, 2020 at 10:35 PM
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    Makes sense. Fox FTW. Exactly why I’m going with fox DSCs from accutune. Just can’t beat it. And the articles they write are very informing.
     
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  2. Feb 11, 2020 at 8:27 AM
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    so happy with my Fox DSC 2.5s in each corner
     
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  3. Feb 11, 2020 at 7:27 PM
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    I’m looking at getting these Fox 2.5 Coilovers on my 2019 SR5 with the 600# springs. I want about 2” of lift or maybe slightly more. Does anybody have these on their 3rd gen? I’m trying to find out what preload you have yours set at to get the same lift I’m looking for. Thanks guys!

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  4. Feb 11, 2020 at 8:33 PM
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  5. Feb 11, 2020 at 8:42 PM
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    That’s who I’m ordering through. They can’t say exactly where to set it at. I’m looking for answers from somebody who actually installed this setup on their 3rd gen.
     
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  6. Feb 11, 2020 at 10:22 PM
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    We’re gonna need a lot more info then. There’s a lot of variables. Start reading through this thread. There’s a lot of info already posted with what you’re asking. Short story is that every truck is different, some vastly so. For instance, my buddies stock 4x4 off road has 14” 650lbs coils pretty much maxed out and he’s at 2”. I’m also on 14” 650lb coils but I have bumper and winch in the front and I’m at 2” and only showing 5 threads. Some have 700lb coils. Others are fine on 13” coils, and yet others are running 14” 600lb coils.

    Are you stock? Plan to add weight? Running without sway bar?

    in general, I think it’s safe to say that you need 14” 600lb coils for a stock third gen. The 13” coils are crap. 650’s if you have moderate weight and 700’s if you’re a pig.

    threads showing is going to vary widely however.
     
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  7. Feb 12, 2020 at 4:53 AM
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    Thank you for the response. I don’t have anything that adds weight to my truck. I currently have OME 887 springs with Bilstein 5100 at the lowest clip setting that’s giving me about 2” of lift in the front. I want to keep what I have but will be ok with more lift at about 2 1/4”. I also just ordered the Icon Delta UCAs. I’ve been working with AccuTune but they can’t give me very specific advice because they don’t have my vehicle in their shop, liability reasons. I’m leaning towards the 14” 600# springs because I don’t want to put too much preload on and I’m looking for a comfortable ride since I’m spending so much money on these.
     
  8. Feb 12, 2020 at 6:28 AM
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    You’re doing it right, with stock weight 14” 600#’s are gonna ride great. To clear up any confusion on preload though... It doesn’t matter where the spring preload collar ends up on the threads of the shock shaft. You’re not changing the length of the coil when you turn the collar to expose more threads. The only thing that’ll compress the coil is the weight of the truck - or more accurately, any down force exerted on the coil - that is why you want to pick the proper weight coil for your truck.

    when you are spinning the preload collar to set ride height, you are actually setting up the proper sag, which is making sure the shock shaft is in the middle of the stroke length. For the DSC’s the stroke length is about 4.9 inches. So you want about 2.5” of up travel and 2.5” of down travel. That way you don’t top out over light bumps and don’t bottom out over small g outs.

    getting your sag set properly will be the major factor in greeting a good ride.

    Ballpark for you: exposed threads for 2.25” lift on your set up is gonna be about 12 threads driver side, 9 threads passenger side. If you’re going for a specific lift height, you will have to play with the collar after a few hundred miles due to settling of the coil. I highly recommend you invest in a couple of 5/16” punches and the Specialty Products spring compressor listed at the bottom of the page. You will never get it right the first time.

    Hope this helps, these shocks are super nice and offer a great ride when used properly.
    :cheers:
     
  9. Feb 12, 2020 at 6:34 AM
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    It’s like having sex without a condom.

    ...and not something you want to take off, put on, take off, put on.
     
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  10. Feb 12, 2020 at 6:42 AM
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    Is this 12 and 9 threads estimate for a 14” spring? I understand that preload doesn’t affect the ride but can affect shock travel. That’s why I was asking about the best spring size for a 2 1/4” left. I’ve heard of others changing from 13” to 14” spring on a third gen.
    Thanks again for the awesome reply.
     
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  11. Feb 12, 2020 at 9:02 AM
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    On my 2wd SR5, and no additional weight/armor, i installed the FOX 2.5 DSC extended travel straight out the box with Camburg UCAs and 13' 600lb springs. I installed with the exposed threads set where they recommended as max preload, seeing. 1.9" of thread i believe. they came out the box with this preload.
    After 10k miles i have 1.5" lift as measured from hub center to OEM fender. It sometimes tops out over adbrubt sqr edge speed bumps but rides offroad and onroad amazing. Always playing with my adjuster to feel differences. currently Im running HS open and LS at half closed. I did have to remove my sway bar as it hits the stock skid plate and the bolt that holds the sway bar to the link balljoint was hitting the lower spring perch on the Fox Coilover after my first offroad trip that fully cycled the suspension. When i drive to the mountains i turn LS speed setting all the way closed and dont notice much sway on curvy mt highway
     
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  12. Feb 12, 2020 at 9:02 AM
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    Great feedback!
    Just to be clear, a Fox coilover with DSC does not necessarily mean it has 4.9" travel. Just needs to be an extended length coilover (0-3" like shown above is an extended lenth shock). 50/50 split on travel can work for some, but not a universal rule. Max shock length we recommend is about 21" from top hat to lower bolt, which leaves about 1.48" of shock droop. With the motion ratio, this provides plenty of wheel travel for someone wanting a max height. I imagine getting a 2" lift, the shock length would be somewhere around 20-20.5". This of course would need to be measured once the weight of the vehicle is on the coilovers.

    @TacoTime850 are you trying to fit a certain size tire on the truck? Or looking to get the most lift height with that coilover? If you're looking for max height, I would shoot for that 21" from the top of the top hat, to lower shock bolt.
     
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    Im actually about to purchase the Fox 2.5 coilovers from you. I just sent in a order yesterday for Fox rear shocks and Icon UCAs. I am trying to gauge which spring size (13” or 14”) that I need to purchase with the coilover for my application with no added weight. I already have about a 2” lift on the front with Bilstein and OME springs. I want to keep my current lift height at 2” to 2 1/4”. I have 33” tires right now. I have a 2019 Tacoma SR5 4x4.
     
  14. Feb 12, 2020 at 10:14 AM
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    On another note, why isn’t AccuTune Offroad in the vendors section of TW? Maybe I missed it?
    AccuTune has the best customer service over the phone that I have ever seen. They give better recommendations for specific applications because they work on Tacoma’s often. They also custom tune every shock to your exact vehicle, for FREE.
     
  15. Feb 12, 2020 at 10:47 AM
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    Spring length wont affect the lift height for these OEM fit coilovers. You will need the same amount of preload on either a 13" or 14" spring, you will just have less threads showing on a 14" spring. Preload often times gets confused with the amount of threads showing on the coilover, which is not accurate. The Fox 2.5 coilovers come with 13x600, so a 14x600 would be an upgraded cost.

    Ryan (the owner) has been on here for years helping people with info before starting the company. Once we got a business account, we reached out to become a vendor but never heard back. Happy to be vendor and support the TacomaWorld community. Lots of incorrect info out there so we do our best to help people make the best decision. Appreciate the kind words!
     
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    Moderator, whoever has the ability to add vendors; let’s help out our fellow TW mbrs by adding AccuTune Offroad to the vendors. They are extremely hands on knowledgeable on the Tacoma. These guys are on another level!!!!!
     
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    Thanks, I messaged another Moderator as well :thumbsup:
     
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    I just got done putting the fronts on last week. 650lb spring even though I don't have a bumper yet. Was trying to match my heavy duty dakars stiffness, so it worked out either way.
     
  19. Feb 12, 2020 at 12:41 PM
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    nice, Looks great!
    Do you have any pointers or advice on install?
    Which hardware did you end up going with?
     
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    Pretty straight forward if you have any mechanical inclination. UCAs were more of a pain. I forgot about the sway bar relocation, so I had to pull it off for the mean time. As far as hardware, that would be a question for @desertjunkie760. Only advice is to knock out anything you need to do that requires the room while it's apart (i.e. ECGS bushing if you wanted one).
     

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