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LT or P rated wildpeaks?

Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by 757yotas, Oct 21, 2017.

  1. Jan 30, 2020 at 4:56 PM
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    I'm getting LT! I don't want to have flats out in DV!
     
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  2. Jan 30, 2020 at 5:04 PM
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    LT.........

    take a peek at the Goodyear Ultra
     
  3. Jan 31, 2020 at 1:19 PM
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    TW 1-piece driveshaft with 1310 u-joints All Pro and Budbuilt skid plates OME Dakar rear springs 3" with 5100 5100 front set at 1.75" (3rd groove up) with stock springs Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R16 2018 TRD Offroad wheels 16x7J with +25mm offset Powerstop rotors with Z36 pads and rebuilt with OEM caliper kit Complete rebuilt rear brakes drums, shoes, springs, wheel cylinders Rebuilt rear diff with Yukon 3.73 ring/pinion Denso 130A rebuilt alternator AGM 24F Battery New OEM idlers and tensioner assembly New AC compressor New PS hose and flushed Walker SS Quiet Flow muffler Denso Iridium long life plugs #3421 (SK20HR11) OEM coolant, cap, and thermostat NAPA CV axles and new seals ECGS bushing Rhino front guard Shortened mud flaps Alziria Black Tail Lights Nilight Headlights X-Bull Traction Boards Maaco full single stage paint job 2023 Nat CV to Knuckle seals 710573 New SKF wheel bearings/hubs BR930978 New Moog stabilizer links K80946 & 948 New MOOG K80819 Suspension Stabilizer Bar Bushing 28mm New Dorman rear wheel bearings using complete axles 926-139 & 140 New Radiator support bushings Dorman 924-267 (front body mounts)
    2009 TRD Off -Road got Falken Wildpeak A/T3W 265/70R16 tires SL rated that go up to 44psi.
    Got five of them as my spare was cracking so have it covered. Nice ride. No E range for me.
    Just did a 400 mile run at 75 and avg mpg was 19 running at 35psi (always have run at that psi for 157k miles).
    Ran a lot of Michelins LTX AT2s before and after 55k they still had even tread but got slippery and are too expensive now.
    Just another opinion.

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  4. Jan 31, 2020 at 1:33 PM
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    Just got P265/70R17. I couldn't be happier. They seem real soft ride compared to my old 10 ply tires
     
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  5. Jan 31, 2020 at 1:41 PM
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    I also had Michelin LTX AT2 E load and they wear like iron but I also found that they really lacked grip. It felt like the rubber hardened up with age? I lost 1-2 mpg using E loads too. Switched over to SL rated Geolandar G015 and really liked them. Could not get them in the size I wanted for my Tacoma so tried SL load Continental Terrientrac A/T which seem nice so far but time will tell if I like them as much as the GeoLandars.
     
  6. Jan 31, 2020 at 1:48 PM
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    Not wild peaks, but I have a buddy who put KO2s on his wifes Acura SUV. But that's the only time I've ever seen it.
     
  7. Jan 31, 2020 at 2:31 PM
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    I have the P rated Toyo ATII's. I don't go wheeling and mainly use my 4x4 for snow purposes when going on ski trips but they have held up absolutely fine with whatever they have been through in the last 3-4 years.
     
  8. Feb 19, 2020 at 10:57 PM
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    Hi, Curious as to the road noise difference between the Michelin AT2’s and your Wildpeaks? I have a 2013 same color...love it. I am currently running KO2’s E range...after 40k, they are wearing well, but are getting noisy and they are stiff. I need to make a change, and I had narrowed it down to Cooper AT3 4s, and the Michelin AT2, in SL range...until I went down this rabbit hole!
    I would appreciate your thoughts. Thanks.
     
  9. Feb 19, 2020 at 11:46 PM
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    The Wildpeaks are same as the Michelins to my ears and actually even with the more aggressive tread seem to ride well at all speeds. At 35psi they do give you a little more road feel over the Michelins but I am happy with them and glad I switched even after 2 sets and 100k miles running Michelins. They look better too.
     
  10. Feb 20, 2020 at 3:08 AM
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    I have the coopers
    Not a fan they are too slick on snow and ice for me. Obther than that great tire and really quiet.
     
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    I have used Michelin AT2 E loads, they wear like iron, at 55k miles they still had a good amount of tread left. They are fairly quiet too. But they never had great grip and as they aged, they got harder and even less grippy. I like Geolanders and TerrainContacts much better.
     
  12. Feb 23, 2020 at 4:02 PM
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    Just put 235/85/16 10 ply falken wildpeaks on totally stock 2016. It Rides fine and handles fine for me and they do not rub. I’m not sure about mileage yet but I’ll keep ya posted.
    I drive a lot of gravel and p tires do not last and tend to get a lot of punctures and ruined tires.

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  13. Jul 23, 2020 at 7:45 PM
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    Ordered some LT wildpeaks. 265/75/16. I debated about P or LT for a while. I read this thread and a few others. Even read on some colorado forums. I don't how much into off roading I'll get but I figured having more protection against blowouts on fireroads and rocks was worth more to me than a smoother ride and 1-2 mpg higher. Most of my driving is highway anyway so I doubt I'll notice.
     
  14. Jul 24, 2020 at 12:57 AM
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    For clarity:
    The A/T3W comes in and SL or E in the 75 series 265/75r16.
    The code 116T is SL max 44 psi weighs 43 lbs and speed rated to 118 mph.
    The 123S is E with max 80 psi and weighs 56 lbs and speed rated to 112 mph.
    In the 265/70r16 stock size its a 112T in SL which I run
     
  15. Aug 21, 2020 at 9:07 AM
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    Hi all!
    I run P rated tires in P285/70/17 (32.9 in); Firestone Destinations in the summer and Blizzak DMV-1 in the winter (lots of snow here in Canada). I don't off road very hard, but, do a lot of snowboarding and camping, so there are some non-pavement situations. I have run Toyo Open Country, as well, in the same size. Have had YEARS of problems with, what I thought was, balancing problems. I'm super sensitive to changes in the truck and the Taco is infamous for a sensitive front end! I, actually, got rid of the Open Countrys, as I thought they were a problem tire. Turns out, I needed aftermarket UCAs and a custom alignment. Stock UCAs will max out at 1.7 Caster and the custom alignment is 4+ each side.

    So... there's that. 285s WILL require aftermarket UCAs and a custom alignment and some trimming to the front fenders and will STILL rub on the cab mounts, unless you cab chop.

    During my years of "balancing problems", I messed with the PSI and recorded them, in an attempt to mitigate the wobble in the steering wheel. I chalk tested them, and "butt tested" them, looking for a smooth ride.

    After the custom alignment, all is perfect in the balance/wobble department and I started to concentrate on ride quality. I have 886 OME and 5100s in the front and stock (although new) TSB leaf springs and Ride Rite air bags in the back. I use the air to compensate, slightly, for the Taco Lean and new topper. I run 24PSI in the left and 21psi in the right air bag. This stiffens up the rear to match the front suspension.

    I've used from 24 to 32 PSI in the tires in my quest for a nice ride. 30 is stock on my 2009.

    Both chalk test and subjective comfort has brought me to 27PSI in front and rear. Axle weight chart does not even register (I think it was 24 psi or lower).

    24-26PSI gives a nicer "cushier" ride, but is a little vague on the highway and 28PSI and up, make the front end feel progressively "twitchier" and more responsive on the highway. I prefer a heavier steering feel and 27PSI is the sweet spot for me.

    I run 28PSI in the winter tires, as they are a little softer.

    FWIW

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  16. Oct 27, 2021 at 3:10 PM
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    What about xl tires do they have the same silica as the standard load that you mentioned or is it the same compound as the LT tires.
     
  17. Oct 27, 2021 at 3:26 PM
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    As far as I know all XL Load ID tire sizes fall under non-LT or standard load, so they have the better winter silica compound (instead of the deeper tread depth).






    XL is the Load ID. LT vs non-LT is indicated right on the Tire Size (on their website). This is the easiest way to tell per their info.

    XL, SL, C, D, E, F, etc. are all umder Load ID. If the tire says LT before or after the size it has harder rubber and deeper tread. If it just says a size (no LT mentioned) then it has better silica rubber for cold conditions (but less tread than the LT).

    Hope that helps.
     
  18. Oct 27, 2021 at 5:07 PM
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    In your honest opinion would you suggest 265/65/17 xl or 265/70/17 sl on stock truck with aftermarket wheels. Reason I ask is because the sales rep is saying to go with the sl because they are cheaper and look better but im not concerned about the price difference. Wheels are -12 offset and a little wider than stock wheels so the 265/65/17 stock size would stretch a bit if I was to equip 265/70/17 on my wheels and I have also indicated the sl factor with this set up.
     
  19. Oct 27, 2021 at 5:14 PM
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    I've always run +1 size tires on my Toyota 4x4's. Even corrects the odo/speedo on some of them (Tacoma). Don't see a reason not to bump up a size if you want to. I wouldn't overthink it. If you're happy with stock size enjoy it, if you want something an inch taller go for it. All good either way.
     
  20. Oct 27, 2021 at 5:30 PM
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    If you run +1 size tires on stock 265/65/17 what size does that make it ? Just so I can follow what your saying ?
     

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