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MAF reading 3.4g on my 2.7

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by Rachelsdaddy, Feb 29, 2020.

  1. Feb 29, 2020 at 4:47 AM
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    Rachelsdaddy

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    Does anyone know why on earth my MAF is reading 3.4g at idle? As far as I know they should match the engine displacement. Can anyone verify this? Thanks!
     
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  2. Feb 29, 2020 at 4:52 AM
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    Blais03

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  3. Feb 29, 2020 at 5:17 AM
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    Although I'm not sure what a pre runner 4x4 is. Conversion?
     
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  4. Feb 29, 2020 at 7:12 AM
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    Yeah, it’s a 99 2.7 PreRunner. I have been chasing drive ability issues for years. High +10 ltft. If I am correct and this should read 2.7 grams per second either I have the improper maf (from a 3.4) or the ecu is incorrect for the truck. If the ecu thinks it’s getting 3.4 g of air seems to me it would certainly be trying to add fuel. The maf that’s in there supposedly came from a 2.7, bought it from a boneyard online. Any techies know for sure?
     
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  5. Feb 29, 2020 at 7:29 AM
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    I'd start by changing that sock you've been using for a gas cap and the burned out CEL lightbulb.
    That S2 O2 diode under passenger seat isn't helping driveability either.
    Clean the MAF with a stiff wire brush and Drano liquid if you're feeling adventureous.:bananadead:
     
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  6. Feb 29, 2020 at 7:41 AM
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    I understand your thinking... Spitballing and thinking out loud here, if there was a slight vacuum leak the O2 sensor would compensate but the g/sec would be lower... is the idle normalish, not over 800 rpm? The 4 cylinders seemed to be different throughout the years... some have a MAP sensor some dont. The brake vacuum booster is often overlooked for vacuum leaks... squeeze the hose and look at STFT for an improvement. Raise the rpms slowly and hold at say 2k and look at STFT... if it improves toward 0 then there is definitly false air somewhere. What does the IAT show... this is built into the MAF as far as I know. PCV valve OK?
     
  8. Feb 29, 2020 at 8:46 AM
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    Can you guys re-read the original post? I know my O2 is correct. I’d like to know how many grams per second is a 2.7 supposed to read at idle. I’m fairly sure it should be 2.7. This is where I’d like to concentrate. My scanner is reading 3.4. Lol. If it’s a nice day where you live, have a 99, a 2.7, scanner and a couple minutes to help me out please see what your maf is reading. I will send you a Dunkin’ card. Thanks
     
  9. Feb 29, 2020 at 8:48 AM
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    Mine doesn’t whistle when going down the road , or did you put some FlexTape over the hole already... lol, smaht ass
     
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    I just turn up the radio for Taco whistle drown out mod:rofl::rofl:
     
  11. Feb 29, 2020 at 9:11 AM
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    Do you think the whistle and drip are related? Would be nice to fix both with flex tape once I find a screwdriver.
     
  12. Feb 29, 2020 at 9:17 AM
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  13. Feb 29, 2020 at 9:28 AM
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    I read mine in cfm..I think. I don't think it's going to match the liter of the engine.
     
  14. Feb 29, 2020 at 9:31 AM
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    Mine read somewhere from 3.3-3.6 at idle. It's fine
     
  15. Feb 29, 2020 at 9:54 AM
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    Bummer. Thanks
     
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    I am curious how a mass and weight label is used to measure volume Looking to learn something new !!
     
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  17. Feb 29, 2020 at 6:15 PM
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    the "perfect" ratio of air to fuel is apx 14.7 to 1. So many grams of air per second equals so much weight then the PCM calculates fuel based on that, modified by air temp, throttle position etc.etc.
     

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