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Discussion in 'Suspension' started by Lane Cypert, Oct 28, 2008.

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  1. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM
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    ok i will let them set the camber and toe to 0*...i thought it will settle after driving it for a couple of days but it looks like i still have a positive camber...and i can't see on my naked eye of the tire being on the toe out side...thanks

    i got question and i want to know your personal opinion about caster
    1. what will be the effect of higher number on caster(driving condition)...will it be push on throttle while turning or it will turn in on throttle?
    2. when the number goes up on caster,is the uca going forward towards front end or towards the cabin? thanks
    Don
     
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  2. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:09 PM
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    Camber affects the vetical alignment of the tires. 0* has the tires set exenly on the ground. No idea on the "push on throttle or turn on throttle"
    When the Caster number goes "UP" it is moveing the top of the spindel twards the rear of the truck.
     
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  3. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:14 PM
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    sorry Chris...i meant caster on the first question
     
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  4. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:23 PM
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    By that do you mean the left and right tires need to output similar readings?
     
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  5. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:25 PM
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    yeah man.....the really need to be close to the same. your readings are a good ways off as far as i can tell. how does the truck ride ,especially at high speed?? im betting it likes to wander a good bit,right?
     
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  6. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:28 PM
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    I just got it done yesterday, haven't gone past 60MPH. I didn't notice anything strange though. I'm going back first thing tomorrow and telling them the pros at TW said they did a POS job!
     
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  7. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:29 PM
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    rip em' a new asshole bro!!!:D

    i would go out to the interstate and run up to about 75 and see how it does. but to me.....looks like they need to even it up.
     
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  8. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:44 PM
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    Will do bro, i'll take some pictures too :p.

    Man... i feel so bad, we hijacked this thread like if it was nothing... sorry :eek:
     
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  9. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:46 PM
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    hey man.......we hijack threads all day long here at tw!!!!:D
     
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  10. Oct 29, 2008 at 8:53 PM
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    Camber affects the vetical alignment of the tires. 0* has the tires set exenly on the ground. No idea on the "push on throttle or turn on throttle"
    When the Caster number goes "UP" it is moveing the top of the spindel twards the rear of the truck


    when the spindle is going towards the rear of the truck on a higher caster number hence it's creating the uca's to follow towards the rear so whats the benefit on the handling of the truck(slow turning ,mid speed turning, i don't need high speed turning :D)... did you pick the higher number on caster just for personal preference? i am asking this questions because i always set my cars on my personal driving habits...every people has its own driving style and you and me and other member are different...

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    not being a capital "A" just wanting to know if i can benefit to it...thanks alot
    Don
     
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  11. Oct 30, 2008 at 5:45 PM
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    I really dont know how the street handleing is affected by Caster. Cars have Caster around 10* or more. Many trucks are set near 6 to 7*. Tacomas are on the short end 2.5*. The lower caster makes it easier for the steering to turn larger tires, and when off roading, the tires dont move twards the rear as much when the suspension cycles. The numbers I gave you are for best straight line performance ( less wandering) and wont smash the rear of your fenders when off roading. You cant get more caster than 3* from the geometry unless you do some major mods. If you leave your caster at .7*, your truck will wander. Also, cars have much more adjustability on their suspensions (camber, caster and toe), than Most trucks do. BUT, a cars suspension cant handle the beating that most trucks can endure. I hope Im helping.
     
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  12. Oct 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM
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    you have helped alot of people here ,thanks for your input and its greatly appreciated and i believe that every opinion counts especially who already tried it...all i have to do is changed the numbers and see for myself :)... i've experienced (500miles) on the number i gave here, so i will see if there's much difference onced i change it...thanks
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  13. Oct 30, 2008 at 6:45 PM
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    Huh, so thats why the poor tech couldn't get my allignment right....my bad. Anyone know a place in Alberta to get the UCA's?
     
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  14. Oct 30, 2008 at 7:04 PM
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    I got my alignment redone this afternoon.

    Camber - .1*
    Toe - .01*
    Caster - 2.7* (Left) 2.9* (Right)
     
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  15. Oct 30, 2008 at 7:09 PM
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    Those are good numbers!
     
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  16. Nov 2, 2008 at 10:45 PM
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    Got mine redone as well. Does this look better to you guys?

    Left:
    Camber: 0.30
    Caster: -0.28
    Toe: 0.01

    Right:
    Camber: 0.38
    Caster: -0.07
    Toe: 0.02
     
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  17. Nov 3, 2008 at 11:19 AM
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    toe looks ok, but to me....they still shoulda got the caster/camber closer than they did. i guess just drive it like that for a little while and see if the tires start wearing abnormal or drive on the interstate and see if it wonders.
     
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  18. Nov 3, 2008 at 11:42 AM
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    Wonders what??

    You mean "wanders"... :p
     
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    :rolleyes:......didnt know we were having a spelling bee!
     
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  20. Nov 3, 2008 at 4:15 PM
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    I dont know why they cant zero out your camber. You have NO caster. Tell them 0* Camber, 0* toe, .5 or more Caster.
     
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