1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

prerunner into a 4x4

Discussion in 'Technical Chat' started by taco@you123, Oct 22, 2008.

  1. Oct 31, 2008 at 8:53 AM
    #41
    007Tacoma

    007Tacoma I dub thee malicious!

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Member:
    #643
    Messages:
    6,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    San Antonio, TX
    Vehicle:
    2015 4Runner Trail Edition Premium
    Cloaking Device
    There is a certain amount of disconnection between a driver and his vehicle when electronics do what can be done manually. You get more feedback from how things feel when the operation is done manually.

    That too, but I am not so worried about that on a Tacoma. I just enjoy knowing that my TCase is where I put it and not hoping that the light on the dash is telling me where it is.

    Plus - adding a manual TCase to a PreRunner means much less electrical work. I don't think that you would even need to get into the ECU for this. Of course, you wouldn't have a dash light, but you should know where your lever is at all times. :p
     
  2. Oct 31, 2008 at 8:56 AM
    #42
    LonghornTaco

    LonghornTaco Can you pass the bailout please?

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Member:
    #9763
    Messages:
    3,318
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    Black 09 4x4 TRD Off Road Doublecab
    3" ToyTec coilover lift on Bilstein 5100s, Total Chaos UCAs, ToyTec diff drop, Scangauge II, 4D MagLite mounted on the drivers seat, Painted engine cover, Painted calipers (red), Painted skid plate (red) Valentine 1 radar detector hard wired, Damplifier Pro on the floor, back wall and doors, Luxury Liner Pro on the floor and doors, Kenwood DNX8120, 2 Pioneer TS-SW1041D 10" shallow mount subs, 2 Pioneer PRS-D4200F 1200W amps, Mr Marv sub enclosure, Hybrid Audio Clarus 6.5" components in the front doors, Alpine 5.25" coaxials in the rear doors, A.R.E. LSII fiberglass tonneau cover, All Pro bumper, All Pro sliders, Wet Okole seat covers, Sockmonkey Mountain badges, PIAA 510 SMR Driving Lights, Warn M8000 Winch, Bud Built skids
    Now, when you talk about a manual transfer case, are you talking about old school locking hubs (where you have to get out of your truck) or having that extra shifter in the center console?

    I remember my dads old 91 Toyota had manual locking hubs and he always wished there was a way to not have to get out to do that...
     
  3. Oct 31, 2008 at 9:00 AM
    #43
    jtaco

    jtaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5958
    Messages:
    286
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    07,trdOR,DC,4x4,v6,saw2.5s,OMEdakars,LRarms
    saw2.5s,AEMshortair,skyjackershocks,LRa-arms,OME dakars,Alpine,JL audio 6x9 3 way in front doors
    what would u care where ur tcase would be on a prerunner, u dont have 4x4 anyways, so what is the feelign u are lookin for when driving? are u sayin if added one to a prerunner?
    are those older tacomas with the shifter for 4hi and low a transfer case rather then electric??
     
  4. Oct 31, 2008 at 9:12 AM
    #44
    Hotdog

    Hotdog My hair is all natural Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2007
    Member:
    #872
    Messages:
    10,245
    First Name:
    Hotdog
    Vehicle:
    2007 PreRunner SR5 Double Cab
    Wet Okole Underwear
    Most people who buy trucks don't need a 4x4. In fact, most people who buy trucks don't intend to offroad with them. Furthermore, there are events that are strictly 4x2 events. I would suspect that many high speed races do not require 4x4.

    I have a prerunner because that is the only way that I could get the double cab. I would much rather have a lower truck. Even if I had an access cab or a single cab, I'd get a prerunner, because that is the only way to get the v6.
     
  5. Oct 31, 2008 at 9:50 AM
    #45
    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,074
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    2011 taco, sport 4x4
    oil change...

    1.He is talking about adding 4X4 to his 2wd prerunner...hence adding a transfer case.
    2. refereing to "that feeling" meaning actualy engaging 4wd with a shifter rather thatn pushing a button and hope that the electronic stuff is doing its job right.
    3. Yes. the shifter is a manual transfer case. you are physicaly shifting from 2wd into 4wd.

    when you add 4x4 to one of these trucks you will not see a "pumpkin" b/c the have independent front suspention "IFS". the pumpkin will be on a straight axle...the rear...or on the front of older 4x4's and the newer dodge trucks.
     
  6. Oct 31, 2008 at 9:53 AM
    #46
    Justin626

    Justin626 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2007
    Member:
    #2838
    Messages:
    929
    Gender:
    Male
    Palmer, Alaska
    Vehicle:
    2007 4x4 TRD Sport DC Super White
    Toytec 3" w/ AAL, N-Fab Nerf Bars, Lightforce 170mm Strikers, N-Fab Light Bar, Metra Ipod Adapter, Scosche Auto Start
    You don't need a solid "straight" front axle to have a diff.
     
  7. Oct 31, 2008 at 11:58 AM
    #47
    007Tacoma

    007Tacoma I dub thee malicious!

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Member:
    #643
    Messages:
    6,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    San Antonio, TX
    Vehicle:
    2015 4Runner Trail Edition Premium
    Cloaking Device
    Not necessarily - you can have auto-hubs on a manual T-Case. My Suburban (1983) and my Scout (1974) had that.

    However, manual hubs are much more reliable (or - at least that was the case 10 years ago).
     
  8. Oct 31, 2008 at 12:14 PM
    #48
    007Tacoma

    007Tacoma I dub thee malicious!

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Member:
    #643
    Messages:
    6,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    San Antonio, TX
    Vehicle:
    2015 4Runner Trail Edition Premium
    Cloaking Device
    Well, the name of the thread is "PreRunner into a 4x4". ;)

    You wouldn't need a transfer case unless you were driving the front wheels. Well... You could use it for the lower gearing, but that's just ridiculous.
     
  9. Oct 31, 2008 at 12:16 PM
    #49
    Zombie Runner

    Zombie Runner Are these black helicopters for me?

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5246
    Messages:
    15,074
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Kevin
    Wichita Falls, TX
    Vehicle:
    2011 taco, sport 4x4
    oil change...
    I know that. but since they have IFS your not gonna see the diff hanging out like you would on a straight axle.
     
  10. Oct 31, 2008 at 2:25 PM
    #50
    monoman

    monoman Time to get dirty!

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2008
    Member:
    #8607
    Messages:
    1,453
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Dave
    Exotic, San Jose, Cal.
    Vehicle:
    2018 Silver Sky Tacoma SR Access Cab 4X4
    SnugTop SuperSport shell CaliRaisedLED light bar Toyo Open Country AT/3's Bilstein 5100's up front, (#2) & 4600 in rear Daily driver....
    Here is a good thread to converting a prerunner to a 4x4, & has some prices too.....good luck!
     
  11. Oct 31, 2008 at 3:52 PM
    #51
    007Tacoma

    007Tacoma I dub thee malicious!

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2007
    Member:
    #643
    Messages:
    6,644
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Mark
    San Antonio, TX
    Vehicle:
    2015 4Runner Trail Edition Premium
    Cloaking Device
    Yeah... but what about doing it to an 05+ with stock parts (minus the TC and adapter)?
     
  12. Oct 31, 2008 at 4:04 PM
    #52
    JimBeam

    JimBeam BECAUSE INTERNETS!! Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Member:
    #5966
    Messages:
    51,773
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    JB
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tundra
    do they make a manual TCase for the new trucks?

    for those of you wondering why someone says they want the prerunner look...as opposed to saying they want the 4wd look...

    a prerunner originally is a truck designed to "pre-run" a race course

    they look a lot like this:
    [​IMG]

    now that toyota offers a truck called the prerunner...its possible that the people saying they want the prerunner look may be uninformed and think that its a styling/suspension thing like the xrunner...
     
  13. Oct 31, 2008 at 5:16 PM
    #53
    jtaco

    jtaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5958
    Messages:
    286
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    07,trdOR,DC,4x4,v6,saw2.5s,OMEdakars,LRarms
    saw2.5s,AEMshortair,skyjackershocks,LRa-arms,OME dakars,Alpine,JL audio 6x9 3 way in front doors
    shh, im glad im not the only one confused by all this, ok so are u sayin that 4 wheel drive only needs one diff case(pumpkin) in rear?then where does the lsd and lockers install on the prerunners? and on the older tacos with tcase on floor with gears to switch to 4x4, does that mean it is not turning at all unless u switch the gear on floor into 4wdrive? so our electric 4x4s are always on and turning. or do our electric ones switch the gears electronically?
     
  14. Oct 31, 2008 at 5:18 PM
    #54
    JimBeam

    JimBeam BECAUSE INTERNETS!! Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Member:
    #5966
    Messages:
    51,773
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    JB
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tundra
    4wd and "prerunners" both only have one diff in the rear...the lsd/locker/etc goes in that with the gears

    4wd also has a diff in the front end that can also be locked
     
  15. Oct 31, 2008 at 5:21 PM
    #55
    JimBeam

    JimBeam BECAUSE INTERNETS!! Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2008
    Member:
    #5966
    Messages:
    51,773
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    JB
    Vehicle:
    2015 Tundra
    also...manual and electronic tcases engage and disengage when shifted into and out of 4wd...one does it electronically and one does it manually

    on top of that you can add in manual hubs instead of the ADD that comes on most newer trucks

    manual hubs you have to lock in to have 4wd...ADD will do it electronically when the truck is shifted into 4wd


    i think i got all that correct...someone want to verify?
     
  16. Oct 31, 2008 at 5:32 PM
    #56
    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    112,751,503
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2019 Rubicon 4 Door,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    Here is one link for the first gens. I cant find the link for the second gens, but alot of people have performed the conversion:
    FWIW, I bought a PreRunner, as its more than capable for what I use it for, and I already have 2 4x4's and a 6x6. :D
     
  17. Oct 31, 2008 at 5:38 PM
    #57
    LonghornTaco

    LonghornTaco Can you pass the bailout please?

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2008
    Member:
    #9763
    Messages:
    3,318
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Jason
    Minnesota
    Vehicle:
    Black 09 4x4 TRD Off Road Doublecab
    3" ToyTec coilover lift on Bilstein 5100s, Total Chaos UCAs, ToyTec diff drop, Scangauge II, 4D MagLite mounted on the drivers seat, Painted engine cover, Painted calipers (red), Painted skid plate (red) Valentine 1 radar detector hard wired, Damplifier Pro on the floor, back wall and doors, Luxury Liner Pro on the floor and doors, Kenwood DNX8120, 2 Pioneer TS-SW1041D 10" shallow mount subs, 2 Pioneer PRS-D4200F 1200W amps, Mr Marv sub enclosure, Hybrid Audio Clarus 6.5" components in the front doors, Alpine 5.25" coaxials in the rear doors, A.R.E. LSII fiberglass tonneau cover, All Pro bumper, All Pro sliders, Wet Okole seat covers, Sockmonkey Mountain badges, PIAA 510 SMR Driving Lights, Warn M8000 Winch, Bud Built skids
    Show off.



    Chris FTW!
     
  18. Oct 31, 2008 at 7:38 PM
    #58
    jtaco

    jtaco Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2008
    Member:
    #5958
    Messages:
    286
    Gender:
    Male
    Vehicle:
    07,trdOR,DC,4x4,v6,saw2.5s,OMEdakars,LRarms
    saw2.5s,AEMshortair,skyjackershocks,LRa-arms,OME dakars,Alpine,JL audio 6x9 3 way in front doors
    really though , what is the percentage of electronic 4x4s that have failed? anyone or anyone know someone's that failed?
     
  19. Oct 31, 2008 at 8:04 PM
    #59
    chris4x4

    chris4x4 With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. Moderator

    Joined:
    May 8, 2008
    Member:
    #6497
    Messages:
    112,751,503
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    FlimFlubberJAM
    Tenoe, AZ
    Vehicle:
    2019 Rubicon 4 Door,
    4.10 gears, sliders, and lots of buttons.
    I know of a few that have failed. One when crossing a river. 2 when navigateing a pretty hard trail. Thats one of the reasons I like my Dodge: MANUAL transfer case, and a Solid Front Dana 60 axel. :D
     
  20. Oct 31, 2008 at 8:45 PM
    #60
    taco@you123

    taco@you123 [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 30, 2008
    Member:
    #6989
    Messages:
    262
    Gender:
    Male
    mesa, arizona
    Vehicle:
    07 toyota tacoma prerunner sr5 with
    6" pro comp lift, moto metal rims, front grill
    hey thanks man, ill check it out
     

Products Discussed in

To Top