2014 Tacoma access cab brakes after brake job

Hello all. I appreciate having this forum here to read about and ask questions about my Tacoma, which I love BTW.

I just replaced the brakes but not the rotors and the brakes squealed pretty bad so went ahead and changed out the rotors and the noise came back after a few days. The mechanic swapped the pads out for new ones (same ones) under the warranty because they are good pads and I trust this guy as I have known him for 20+ years. Did OK for a week or two and the squeal is back with a vengeance. I think the next step it to go back to OEM pads but wanted to get the opinions of you folks here since you are the expert owners. I changed the brakes with 88,000 miles on it, likely the original pads and not a squeak coming from them ever, until they were changed. Any advice? PS: This has all been done in the last two months so not much wear on anything yet.

 

Are they cleaning the brake parts properly before replacing? Most of the time its because of brake dust.

 

I witnessed him cleaning everything during one of my trips. This is quite frustrating to say the least.

 

I’d go back to oe pads and rotors.. make sure he cleans any surface rust off the hub before installing. Hopefully he reused or replaced all the original springs and shims

 

If it's the same pads as the first ones I'd say that's your culprit.

 

Do you think OEM pads are the way to go?

 

Different pads are almost certainly the way to go; not necessarily OEM, but different at least. For whatever reason, certain pad/rotor combinations on certain vehicles just don't work the way they should.

 

Some pad materials just make noise that's really all there is to it. Mine squeal but they grip like a gorilla fist so I deal with it.

 

Give it a couple weeks,and see if they settle in.

 

I tend to agree except they are getting worse. It has been about 2 or 3 weeks since the last change out.

 

I only use OEM Toyota pads and never ever have a problem,a lot of times,its the type of material used in the pads that cause the noise.

 

What kind of pads did you use? What kind of rotors?

 

Brakes are Wagner Ultra Quiet

 

Must have got put in the wrong box

 

Lets break this down just so I'm tracking. Your mechanic first changed out your pads for new OEM pads but left your old rotors in place. Then the squeal came back so he replaced the old rotors for new rotors. At this point you now have both new rotors and new pads and its still squeaking?

Did you use all new hardware for your brake shoes? I don't reuse any brake hardware with the exception of the bolts and guide pins (unless their condition requires replacement). Squeaking typically comes from lack of proper lubrication or the wear tab on the pad spring rubbing on the brake disk. I use 2 types of grease when changing pads,

$14 Permatex 09128 Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant, 8 oz.

copper based anti-seize and

$17 Permatex 24125 Ceramic Extreme Brake Parts Lubricant, 8 oz., Pack of 1

high-temp brake grease which you can buy at all auto-parts stores. The anti-seize I use on the bolts and I brush the back of the brake pads where it mates up with the brake pistons. The high temp brake grease gets used on the caliper guide pins and I fill the guide pin boot up with a small amount. Prior to that, everything gets cleaned with a liberal amount of brake-kleen (avoiding the rubber boots on your guide pins and brake piston boots). You can clean those areas if you spray a rag and wipe around the exposed metal of the piston while trying to stay away from the boot. It's not the end of the world if you get your boot (not the ones you're wearing) with a little brake-kleen but I wouldn't spray them directly because it will cause the rubber to expedite deterioration. when it comes to hardware, your brake shoes/pads should come with new springs and anti-squeal shims that click on the back of the pads.

If you happened to touch the brake disk with soiled/oily hands, I would clean them with brake-kleen. So, bottom line from the desk, it sounds to me like your mechanic either left the anti-squeal pad off of the back of the brake shoe or he didn't use enough lube in the places where lube should go.

Edit: There is a break in period as well. Accelerate to 40 - 50 mph and brake to 0. Dont slam on the breaks until the shoes are bedded. Make gradual but firm stops from 50 to 0 for at least 4 to 5 times to wear off the shipping(?) wax.

-J

 

So my grandpa was wrong for telling to spray WD-40 on them to stop the squealing? I never got to ask him why he told me that, he died in a car wreck.

 

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-J

 

Follow up: had my guy put on Toyota OEM pads, squeal gone. Lesson learned for sure. There’s a reason why these pads last so long to begin with.

 

Wagner brake pads suck balls. They are always squeeling. OEM warranty sucks balls and they won't accept a return on previously installed parts so fuckem. I use Duralast Gold pads and Napa Premium rotors on my Taco and all my cars. Always quiet and always stops on a dime. Lifetime warranty on both pads and rotors and I get free replacements no questions asked for any reason.

Make sure you bed your brakes properly. Google it.

 

My guy was able to get the Wagners returned for the OEM brakes. I typically don’t keep a vehicle long enough to take advantage of lifetime parts but definitely a great idea. I’ve had my Tacoma 3 years which is a record but I love it!