Bilstein 6112

Your choice of tire and PSI will have a greater impact as to how harsh the truck rides.

 

That's not necessarily true. While I agree that tires greatly impact ride quality, your suspension setup has a greater impact on body lean and overall handling.

 

Body lean and overall handling, yes. With this specific suspension, the tire choice and pressure will be the deciding factor in it riding harshly.

 

Nothing wrong just a classic case of too much preload causing the shocks to top out when the wheel drops off the back side of a bump. I had that and didn't like it at all. move it down 2 notches and take two aspirin and you'll be fine.

 

Good stuff, good opportunity to do the needle bearing. Thanks dude. Approximately how much lift did you lose?

 

By dropping it down some its possible you may not need the ECGS bushing. I ran it lifted for 2 years before doing it and maybe I got lucky because the shafts were fine. Then again just do it while you have it apart. Mine's a 2nd gen and I was having that on the 4th notch and went to 3 with a spacer on DS and it got better. With some settling you might be able to just go 1 notch. 3rd gen guys can give you a better idea about how much the lift will change. Most folks here prefer some rake anyway. You and your truck will be much happier if you bring it down a bit. Good Luck

 

Thanks again for the input man!

Can any 3rd gen guys chime in here? It has the sliiightest amount of bro-lean right now at the top notch, and yes the needle bearing has been vibrating from the start.

 

So, I have my 6112's up front both set at the top notch each side, plus a 1/4'' spacer on the drivers side. This was so I'd be allllmost level with my HD Dakars in the back (tow trailers often, and fill that LB with heavy things). Total lift of about 2.25'' after settling and no bro lean from what I can tell..

I did do the needle bearing swap when I had everything apart... too much trouble to do later on. Aside from the front/rear suspension overhaul and ECGS bushing swap, I also did do a carrier bearing drop to get my driveline angles back in check. Also added JBA UCAs, and 5160's + extended brake lines in back.

 

When you lift via the 6112 suspension and an UCA, how much does it narrow the front end? And if it is significant, is anyone using wheel spacers to correct it? I plan to use the stock TRD OR 16" wheels with 265 70 16 durratracs, I think. I would go to a 75, but no one makes a calibration solution for the 2020 yet and I really don't want all of my fancy calculations for fuel consumption and mileage to be off.

 

I went with wider offset wheels to gain track width. Wheel spacers are terrible.

 

I completely agree with you that wheel spacers are terrible. I would never run them myself, but I keep seeing pics and I wondered if they were narrower as a result of the lift, and if so how much. Your wheels look good, but I am not interested in buying wheels so I am adding yet another consideration to this expensive possibility of suspension modification.

 

Also, what bumper are you running? That thing looks good!

 

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I have a 2013 double cab long bed with 6112's , and JBA's. I haven't noticed much narrowness at all From the Before & After aspect of putting the lift on. I am also running inch and a quarter spidertrax wheel spacers. I understand why some people don't like wheel spacers and others do. I have never had an issue, even off roading in them. I had a lot of apprehension as well before getting them but after doing my research and talking to a lot of people that did have the hub centric spacers such as spidertrax, I was sold. Obviously, everyone would love to get new rims that had a better offset but can't necessarily afford them and this can be the next best thing as long as use them correctly.

 

Hey all, I'm about to pull the trigger on HS off-road's 6112/5160 combo kit w/ the OME Dakar HDs in the rear (topper/RTT/full size spare, fuel, etc....). With the BAJA TX suspension on the truck currently, I've had ~2.75" lift front and back and I'd like to keep this new suspension kit as close to that as possible -> the HD Dakars are advertised to get right around 2.75" in the rear, but I'm looking for input up front. I already have the 650# eibach coils from the BAJA suspension, and from the reading I've done in this and other 6112 threads, there's no real way to gauge how much lift you'll get if using 650/700# coils so:

1) Use my 650# eibachs and start w/ either #2 or #3 clip setting and adjust from there to get close to ~2.75" up front? (I've read anywhere from an additional .5"-1.25" lift just with the 650# coils alone.....?)

2) Use the 600# bilstein coils the 6112s come with, set clip to #4 and use a 1/4" top plate spacer on each to net ~2.65" lift up front? Or is that math stupid. Or are top plate spacers stupid / not designed to work like that?

I don't have any extra weight up front to account for, so I really don't care at this point if I use my existing 650# eibachs or not, just trying to get as close to ~2.75" as possible. I will be adding SPC or JBA UCAs to the mix. TIA!

https://www.headstrongoffroad.com/s..._Kit_with_OME_Dakar_Leaf_Pack_(HS05BK-3).html

 

Quick question, do you have any armor up front or plan on it? Bumper? Skids? Sliders? Or is all of the weight in the rear with the rtt and cap?

 

All the junk's in the trunk right now....nothing up front YET. I plan on a bumper/winch combo of some flavor, but not for a couple years. I just have this irrational desire to use parts I already have, but I can't buy the 6112s without the 610# coil anyway, so maybe it'd be worth using them (for better ride quality), until I'm ready for more weight up front then swap out for my 650# coils?

 

I would just get the 6112's with the 600lb coils that they come with in the beginning with a setting on the 4th notch with a 1/4" spacer on the driver's side. What you have planned for the rear is good, as long as you are set up for possible vibes in the rear i.e. carrier bearing drop and possibly shims due the the lift of the heavy dakars. When I added my front bumper and skid plate trio, I then upgraded to the 650lb springs (the bilstein ones not the eibach ones to keep the warranty from bilstein) and it brought me back up to the level I was at before the armor. Eibach 650lb springs are not recommended by bilstein due to the loss of the warranty and 700lb springs, even though some sellers put them on there, are highly not recommended by bilstein stating that the shock was not made for that shock and it has a high likelihood of damaging the top hat of the shock due to the weight. If you don't have aftermarket UCA's it would be highly recommended that you do for this high of a lift for increased caster, decreased BJ issues, and better articulation. I have JBA's and I very much recommend them to anyone.

 

Thanks for the info! I think that's exactly what I"ll do then, 600lb coils for now. Planning on UCAs (was looking at the SPCs, but I'll check out JBA too), and carrier bearing drop too.

What size tires do you have on your 2013? I've been able to run 285/75/16s the last couple of years with no issues/rubbing (mild off-roading only), and I'm hoping to be able to continue that with this new suspension setup.

 

Right now, I am running 265/70 17's but will be upgrading to 255/80 17 skinnies. With your 285's you might be expecting a small amount of rub depending on what you have your caster set at. Do you have a CMC?