Tacoma - OVTUNE - VFTUNER - Update Info and Original Development

I have a feeling that Matt may be waiting for the recall remedy to be released

 

If AT 2.0 is ready and safe for certain year/ECU combos why not release it for those platforms?

Erroring on the side of the customer is a low risk decision. Ultimately his decision, but group punishment sucks.

 

That's a separate issue...

 

the fuel pump recall is for multiple year Tacoma’s. This could cause people to be injured by their vehicle if the fuel pump issue makes the tune malfunction. Mat does not want to be liable and he surely doesn’t want anyone to be injured.
We’re prob not going to get any further with the 2.0 tune until after the fuel pump issue is completely resolved.

The fuel pump issue is not even final with Toyota yet. To date, they are still adding vin numbers to their recall.

 

To be clear... just because our beta tune is listed as a beta doesn't meant it's not a tune. And we just need some more 2019 testing. Does not mean 2019 tunes for 2.0 are not happening.
The 2019 2.0 beta tunes are 1.05 + included additional features and fixes, this is why it's listed as a beta.


TO be clear, in bold : WE ARE STILL RELEASING 2.0 BETA AT. We just need some additional time and testing with 2019s first.

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seems to only be the case with 2019s.

happened to one truck even on 2.0 beta. Same tunes, same settings, doesn't happen on any other years.

The 2019 2.0 beta is all of 1.05 except for a few throttle settings + additional stuff 1.05 doesn't even have.​

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I don’t get why there isn’t a fix. If only certain years have a recall for the fuel pump, why not just swap the fuel pumps? I have a ‘17 and no recall, why don’t they just use that one.

 

Very good point that Toyota would blame fuel pump issues on the tune. I’ve had issues with my TSS since I bought the truck and Toyota has tried to blame it on everything from using MT tires to changing out the stock headlight bulbs.

 

There is a fix, the wait is for them to figure out how the hell they're going to deal with manufacturing and replacing 1.3 million fuel pumps worldwide during a supply shortage.

 

Toyota has turned to shit. Unfortunately we keep buying them so they don’t really care. This will be my last unless their next PR campaign is an apology for sucking

 

Probably looking for the cheapest possible fix and avoiding replacing the fuel pump if Toyota can get away with it.

 

1. 2.0 AT will still be released, still being worked on.
2. We need additional testing and confirmation specifically on 2019 trucks due to these unknowns, before we go ahead with full release
3. The fuel pump recall is something everyone should be aware of, when considering tuning. Yes Toyota will fix it. But until that time comes, if you have issues with your truck Toyota might give you a run around. I have had dozens... honestly so many people I cannot count that tell me dealerships give them so many run arounds and "it's a normal characteristic of the truck" for some pretty serious problems.
4. After we have finished all necessary testing, and ensuring the tune is good on all version year trucks, we will release it.
5. Just because a tune is listed as beta does not mean it's significantly worse, less, etc than any previous tunes. When I make a beta.. I take 1.05 and add stuff to it.
6. I understand some of you guys may be pretty mad about this. Consider from my point of view. There are some trucks out there that are having serious, unknown issues, that could be potentially dangerous. These issues are on top of a new recent recall where your truck could just shut off while driving from a faulty fuel pump. I'm trying to ensure that whatever we provide does not make any situation worse.
7. We don't know what causes this fault or why it happens only on 2019 ATs.
8. If you want to have someone to blame, blame Toyota.
9. This isn't just a tuning issue, and the 2019s aren't having issues just after being tuned. I have countless emails from 2019 owners who are looking at our tune because of these problems.

 

Thanks for the clarification Mat. I’ll have to reword what i said earlier.

So, the 1.05 tune on a 2019 is not much of a tune at all

It seems like the 2019 and 2020 had a new ECU or map update from Toyota that improved or fixed many things over the previous 3rd gen years.

On another note, I drove a 2020 Taco last week for a few days as a loner vehicle.
I have never been in a Tacoma that drove so well. It really felt like it had much more torque than my 2019. It shifted perfect and stayed in the higher gears like no other year Tacoma. It drove MUCH better and felt like it had a good bit more power than my 2019 with 2.0 Beta. There was no comparison.

 

That's also the wrong conclusion.

1.05 is a tune version.
2.0 beta is a different, newer tune version, incorporating 1.05.

 

Then you should of bought the tune when it was final, not in beta still.

 

lets not start with arguing. It's understandable to be mad.
If you're a frustrated 2019 owner, please take it up with TOYOTA. The reason for the delay is from TOYOTAs lack of QC and testing.

We can all pretend it isn't Toyotas fault... but look at these recalls. TSBs, major issues. The 2019 trucks had a big issue shortly after they hit the dealerships and had to have their radar sensors recalibrated. This is still causing issues for people a year later. And now a year later thousands of owners are driving a truck that could shut off on them at any point. Brake over-ride limp mode, etc. And this happens outside of tuning too. Just check on this very forum.
These issues are critical and dangerous. Once again blame TOYOTA

 

I'm not so hung up on the "beta" name as I was looking forward to the 3/4 short shift and fuel cutoff issues being fixed in the final version, as well as all the added features of 2.0.

If you need 2019 owners to test tune settings on side roads to see if they get the malfunction I'm more than willing to help.

 

The more 2019 folks we have willing, the faster we can get through it.

I will also release a new version for the 2019s that will correct those problems, which will be on the beta page.

 

I must be saying it wrong.

What I am trying to say is that the 1.05, 2.0 Beta, what ever you want to call it. It didn’t make any noticeable difference to my 2019. It actually drives worse because of the very early shift point from 3rd gear to 4th gear. Maybe that’s why 2019 guys are a little more frustrated about the final 2.0 release.

I’m ok with waiting, I’m a patient guy. I would rather wait for a fully polished product.

I think everyone knows that you are doing great. Their emotions are just getting the better of them, at the moment.

 

I have a 2019 and I am willing to help

 

Okay now I understand.


I want to remind everyone it's ok to be mad. People have been mad about this truck since it came out, and will continue to be mad about it over the next 20+ years of these used trucks life. It's important to remember the inherent flaws are from the hardware and Toyotas stock software. I'm doing my best to provide a fix for Toyotas big ass blunder with this truck.