Upgrade to a real suspension lift

Well, I was going to call Winkel an a-hole but he was very nice with his disagreement

Just kidding, just kidding.

 

I agree. Unless you spend big on a top dollar suspension upgrade dialed in to your particular truck it will only look better but not perform much better.

 

Like I said not picking sides we all have our opinions and a right to them. Too many folks in here get all tied up that something is exactly one way or another. In this case there is an answer but even the answer changes with opinions. Still well played gentlemen nice to see

 

I would both agree and disagree with this respectfully. Lower end suspensions like Bilstein 5100's or Old Man Emu Nitrocharger series will improve performance in the aspect you will gain lift (not really function I know) they do ride better on road, depending on coil choice they handle wieght much better (plate bumpers and winches etc), and they do work better offroad with or without a sway bar. No they do not provide any extra travel as they are standard travel. So yes they look better and in ways do work better. You are absolutely correct in that if you are to purchase higher end components especially mid travel or long travel and have them tuned you will gain real bennifits in performance both on road and esecially off road as they were designed for.
As a lower end suspension owner I can attest that my 5100's with Eibach coils do perform better in all aspects I mentioned. Offroading the truck it does ride rough which I understand is dueto the sway bar still being in place and not letting the shocks and coils work independantly. I tow our off road camper off road and have no desire to rock crawl so it will stay right where it is. I comletely understand your statement and agree for the most part as a higher end well tuned suspension can really improve performance and make your daily driving absolutely wonderful. I just can't bring myself to justify the expense.

 

I understand what you're saying but let's now think of it this way. Put a floor jack under your truck in the front and put a couple of pumps into it. The front end lifts an inch or two but the tires are still on the ground.
Jack it all the way up and the front suspension will droop a fair amount. At this point, the front struts are fully extended. With a spacer inside the strut, they are no longer than they are without it. The difference is, when you have a spacer inside the strut, the spring preload is increased. When you lower the truck, it won't settle as far as it would without the spacer. This is where you get your lift.
My spacers are on top of the strut, outside of the top hat. The strut assembly is effectively longer, which gives you your lift, without preloading the spring.
That second version, in theory, won't change your ride/spring rate.

 

You can lead a horse to water...

 

Damit jeff just roll with it and enjoy it.

 

Oh I sncerely apologize if you took it like I was fussing at you. No you didn't say anything negative, and I, at least, never mind when you post pics.

 

Beautiful. Have you taken it off road yet since you finished the suspension? I just finished the hammer Hangers and fabbed the cross tube so my rear is finished now I have to consider upgrades to the front.

 

Oh yeah I forgot you went +3.5 Ihave helped install one quite a fun project

 

Lol, yeah.

 

F=k*x. That is all

 

Well @Fullboogie, I need to eat Crow on this one and agree that you are correct. I thought and thought and THOUGHT about this last night and today. (Not the disagreement part, that doesn't bother me.)
But you are correct. Yes, you have to compress the springs more to get the spacer into the strut assembly, but if you're not riding at full strut height, and none of us are, the weight of the truck is the weight of the truck and that is what sets your resting height preload on the coil springs. I wasn't thinking of this correctly.
Now, I'm going to go back and correct my original post (but I'll leave the original misinformation) so I'm not a perpetuator of misinformation about the subject.
Crow tastes like shit......Lol.

 

Damn man good on you! Yes there isn’t a sauce anywhere that makes crow taste bettet

 

If you want to improve your on road handling, bilstein 5100's would be a great choice with their digressive valving, they'll give you tighter cornering and im sure will be smoother than ur spacers

 

It's all good Winkel, and I really appreciate the PM. You've been a good sport and I hope I didn't come across the wrong way.

I hope everyone has a good weekend.