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4 cylinder or V6?

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by grmn101, Apr 11, 2020.

  1. Apr 12, 2020 at 7:35 AM
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    stun gun

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    Sorry BRAH. 2tr is more proven.


    Check the 1st page of this forum to see how “proven” this v6 engine is lol
     
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  2. Apr 12, 2020 at 7:58 AM
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    Sure:thumbsup:
     
  3. Apr 12, 2020 at 8:03 AM
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    I've owned both the 6cyl and now the 2.7.
    Both engines are under powered compared to modern engines and get abysmal MPGs. Since you will be using it almost exactly as I use mine (I also commute on a motorcycle) get the 2.7. My 4wd Access cab SR (paid $25.5K new, 2019) can get from A to B just as easily and safely as a 6 cylinder while burning less fuel. It also has the highest cargo capacity of any Tacoma (!) so if you decide to haul heavy it will be up to the job.

    The inline 4 cylinder is a much simpler design than the goofy Atkinson cycle engine. I also like the SR's look. No chrome, no goofy decals or 1980's chrome lettering...

    Like you, money was a big consideration and I found that the 4 cylinder SR Taco's lose less $$ than the higher optioned models. The reason is because they are so inexpensive to begin with. My SR had a MSRP of just under $31k and I purchased it for $25.5k in November, 2018

    This truck is exactly like the one I purchased and you can see how well the little 2.7 4wd holds value: https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inven...elper.selectedEntity=c27612#listing=268542022
     
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  4. Apr 12, 2020 at 8:14 AM
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    it’s definitely one I won’t get it of. It may be a heavy truck, but a 5spd and bullet proof reliability is why I bought it.

    Need more power? Regear.

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  5. Apr 12, 2020 at 8:20 AM
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    These^ are good points. And, if it hasn’t been said already, OP, buy what you can afford.
     
  6. Apr 12, 2020 at 8:20 AM
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    Just facts. Toyota has been setting the benchmark, globally, with their legendary 4 bangers. As they always have. Since before I was born.

    Both engines will serve...but if anyone thinks this newly configured v6 has proven itself to be anywhere near the reliability level as an I4, they are delusional. Timing cover leaks. HPFP failures. Fuel leaks. Cracked coolant pipe leaks. Oil starvation/smoking on inclines. Engine stalling while making turns. Engine stumbling upon take off. CPS failures. The forum is littered with v6 complaints. Not so much with the I4, because it just does what it does.
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  7. Apr 12, 2020 at 8:27 AM
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    It’s really a no brainer for me. Even before I joined the forums and test drove the new 3.5 - it felt weird and jerky as fuck with its power delivery (6spd manual). This was in late 2015/2016.

    If we were talking the old 4.0 that’s still in the T4R, the scales would tip a little more as I really like that motor.

    also, I’ve seen a SHIT TON v6 3rd gen Tacoma’s up for sale in my area as of the last year or so. Coincidence? Not sure, but good luck finding a 2.7 5spd - I got VERY lucky.

    as for the “in the mountains comment,” my 2.7 didn’t have an issue hauling ass over the summit to Reno back in July on stock 3.91 gearing with 285s mounted. Was I turning 3.5-4k rpm most the way? Yes! But it didn’t struggle when up in its powerband. Regearing to 4.88 will solve a lot of that.
     
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  8. Apr 12, 2020 at 9:47 AM
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    Yes, 315s or 285/75/17 (34”).

    Can’t make up my fucking mind in relation to pros and cons. 4.88 won’t be enough IMO for heavy 34s, and 5.29s mean 315 with too much poke. Really wish there was a 35x11.5x16 in MT.
     
  9. Apr 12, 2020 at 10:50 AM
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    I'm assuming you had it in 3rd with that setup? What speed were you maintaining, just out of curiosity?
    The 2.7 with the auto does at least have the advantage of a 4.3 rear. Problem being automatic shift logic is tough to manage vs MT you can pick a gear and find a comfortable speed it can maintain.

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    It's the one thing that drives me freaking nuts and is literally my only complaint about the whole truck from bumper to bumper: Whoever picked the ratios for the 6AT should feel bad.
    5th is already a deep overdrive, and then 6th is so stupid double-deep that its useless.
     
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  10. Apr 12, 2020 at 10:53 AM
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    I was 3rd-4th depending on the grade heading up the hill. Is nice to be able to leave it in gear thanks to the MT.

    Not sure where you got that graph from, but it’s incorrect for the manual. 2.7 5spd is R156F trans - correct numbers below

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  11. Apr 12, 2020 at 10:56 AM
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    nice photos you got
     
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  12. Apr 12, 2020 at 10:57 AM
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    thanks boo
     
  13. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:04 AM
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    Not true. Dont listen to comments like this. Either could go 500k or blow up at 150k.

    If your going crawling and doing mostly off-roading, get the 4. If your buying a daily driver, get the 6. Both are great Toyota engines.
     
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  14. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:11 AM
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    The probability of the I4 going to 500k is much better. Which was his point.

    The notion that the v6 is just as reliable is wishful thinking.
     
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  15. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:13 AM
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    BUCKLE UP! It makes it harder for Aliens to pull you out of your Truck.
    Takes forever shifting to finally get to 5th gear then it will run with the big dogs all damn day!464AD076-7FD2-4486-A5D3-6BB122FD7B96.jpg
     
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  16. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:14 AM
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    Are you 65+ years old? I4
    Under 65 get v6. Tacos aren’t speed demons even with the v6.
     
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  17. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:30 AM
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    yup, I guess i'm 65. Guess that's why my fiance craves dick all day and LOVES my 2.7. Feels good to be a senior citizen!!!
     
  18. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:37 AM
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    I've had both (SR5 4x4 AC I4, Sport 4x4 AC V6), there is no comparison. The V6 is absolutely the better choice not to mention I average +1 mpg with the V6 (probably because I don't have to flog it as hard to keep up with traffic). The I4 has "leisurely" acceleration to put it kindly.
     
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  19. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:39 AM
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    Exactly. The four is more a dedicated purpose truck....good off road, good as a basic work truck and very good for occasional use.
    If it’s your daily driver and every use is on your plate, there’s no debate. Bigger is always better when it comes to these underpowered mid size vehicles. Except for the Ranger, they’re all lacking.
     
  20. Apr 12, 2020 at 11:42 AM
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    Huh ? For me, driving a 4 cylinder 500k would be a slow agonizing death.
    You can do it if you deliver pizza. But if you work it hard, the four will have a shorter life expectancy.
     
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