Free Wheel Manual Hubs Conversion Kit

My thoughts exactly!

 

@Muddinfun think I could carefully clean it up with some emory cloth? Haven’t done anything yet, but I feel like something should be done to clean up the surface and take a touch off the OD. Its almost like they left it slightly oversize in anticipation for the final machine process to bring it into size, and then skipped the last part, I dunno.

 

If you’re going to do anything with that, it needs to be done in a lathe. Sanding to achieve a precision bearing dimension is not ideal, but would probably be OK with the speeds that wheels turn. However, if you’re going to do that, you need to find out what the specs are for that bearing. There’s no way you can calculate bearing clearances by sanding it down til it fits. Starting out with a hub that’s not bored to the correct size throws a monkeywrench into the whole deal. With a hub bore that’s wrong, you can’t just machine the CV stub to OEM dimensions. Bottom line, it’s a mess and fixing it to correct dimensions is going to be very difficult or impossible.

 

I can bring it to work and chuck it up in a lathe, I was trying to avoid taking it all apart, for the 20th time. I think before I make any moves on the cv surface I am going to assemble it with the best fitting hub, see how it goes together and how it feels completely assembled. If it’s still not right, since the OP is being the way he is, I’ll have to take it back apart and bring it into work.

I also want to check the fit of an oem hub on this cv shaft before I do anything to the shaft itself. Oem tacoma parts will give a comparison measurement on alot of things. I posted in the 1st gen section and got a few members to measure their cv’s, they were all in the ballpark, but I’d rather have a oem taco cv and hub here myself to measure and play with since we are talking such a small difference.

 

The hubs are within tolerance. The hardening process leaves behind the discoloration and magnifies the machining, visually exaggerating the marks.

Please do not publish any more dimensions, there are patents in play.

 

... do you have plans to do anything for the people that have purchased the kit with inferior parts?

 

@mxtwo50r there's no inferior parts, they are quality aftermarket parts. You knew exactly what you were buying, as you asked about this before you purchased it nearly 2 years ago.

 

If they are quality aftermarket parts, why did you suddenly double the price of your kit once you got called out?

Do they go bad sitting in a priority box on the shelf? What does the purchase date have anything to do with it? I love you finding everything possible to try to take the attention off you, but it isn’t working.

Also, If they are quality aftermarket parts, HOW COME THEY DO NOT FIT? They didn't fit upon initial install, they don't fit after troubleshooting, they don't fit with alternate china parts the same as you used to supply and claim “high quality aftermarket”. Truck is still on jackstands, due to your kit.

You STILL haven’t answered for anything other than I replaced a serviceable bearing which is standard between your “kit” and oem toyota, and somehow that holds me liable for your china garbage? If the kit went together properly, none of this would have been posted.

I gave you the option to keep it in PM’s, you chose not to. Now we have you mysteriously going back to oem parts, doubling the price of the kit. All this after after a few people made it publicly known the kits aren’t perfect like you say. What are you doing for the people you sold junk parts to... so far nothing but blaming them for your kits problems, in every instance.

You referenced me to @cjsqueeky , your own reference told you the parts are bad, and he is wrong also?!

 

Done posting in this thread.

Ill be carrying this into vendor reviews.

Chad Dawkins, aka 05taco4x4, see you over there

 

Wow, saw this kit a couple of years ago. Just read all that happened with @mxtwo50r install. We all spend al hell of alot of money on our trucks trying to make them better. I would love to have manual hubs, but if I had to go through this, I would have blown a freaking gasket. I truly hope it all works out but for now I will just keep mine as it is. Done.

 

@Mully thank you for the support.

 

You and me both!

 

Thank you for the support @vssman

 

To conclude, Zack Harwood takes it upon himself to change a part of his hub and never says a word of any alleged discrepancy until after his work gave unsat results. Now he's up in arms over a $20 part. If it was so big a deal wouldn't Zack have said something initially, before claiming to have spent so much more than that to attempt to correct the issue on his own? And since when is it ok to alter a part and then demand a replacement (for a wearable item after 2 years)? I was out to sea with horrible internet and referred him to the thread because I was of little use at the time, he immediately began insulting me and then after completely bashing my item in the for sale thread (aren't there rules against this?) he concludes with attempted character assassination.

There is a change in price structure coming, in works before this meltdown, just waiting on a couple things for photo ops. The price change was just me being a smart ass, I will keep it up until I can post the new.

 

Being a smartass doesn't help you or your product. I still want this setup, waiting to see new photos, price and instructions. Good luck.

 

Wrong. If there wasn’t a problem before I changed the bearing, wtf am I even messing with it for. I did not alter your kit than contact you, don’t get it twisted.

Notified you there was an issue, described in detail over a day or 2 of PM’s. After back and forth, you referred me to cjsqueekys install video. My truck already was together, test driven 2 miles and back apart at this point. We were clearly on 2 different ends of the troubleshooting spectrum.

I changed the needle bearing after you convinced me that it was completely impossible your parts could be messed up, this was after you knew about the problem. So I wanted to make 110% sure the bearing was not somehow damaged during installation. My truck is on jackstands, you were out to sea, had to do what I could on my end to exhaust all resources. Once it was verified the bearing itself was not the problem, I was back to you for an answer. The needle bearing was changed as a troubleshooting measure to verify it wasn't the bearing causing the issue. The issue was present before and after it was switched, with proof of the installed part.

You are merely using it as a scapegoat to not answer for your parts.

Again, had every interaction with you not been blamed on me, this might have went differently. Did you let me know when you were back from sea so you could communicate? No. Or that you were local and could see it in person? No.

I could have easily not been transparent about changing the bearing and still had the same issue, but instead I told you since I was trying to be as helpful as possible in narrowing down the problem with the kit. Helpful is not something I can say you have been. If it was a 20 dollar part that is the problem, I would have spent that 3 weeks ago to fix it and moved on.

I do not need to attempt to assassinate your character, you do it for yourself.

Im done posting in this thread, but expect a reply again if you keep posting false information. I will not let you put out false information to cover for yourself.

You can use my full name in posts all you want. For anyone curious about my end of things, instagram @zack_harwood check it out, give me a follow. No secrets to hide behind here.

 

And those would be which patents?

I'm only interested since just about every patent that vaguely covers selectable engagement of 2wd/4wd drive systems in relation to the front or rear axles of a motorized vehicle are held or have been held by Warn Industries Inc and those that have since expired are now in public domain to be used by anyone.

Unless you've reinvented the locking hub as the world knows it, which is entirely possible, what you've put together here isn't new or improved, but something that's been done many times over in the Toyota enthusiast community. It's not rocket science, you've just been the first to make a production run of what was previously only done by vehicle owners in their garages for their own builds.

Along the same lines of guys that take land cruiser HP 3rds and stick them into modified 1st Gen front axles. Or modify the older wider ifs rear axles from 86-95 to accept the 8" elocker.

 

If you can produce custom cv joints in your garage I’m impressed! This is not merely swapping parts.