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dewayne · Apr 26, 2020

Good Morning

Tacoma Mike · Apr 26, 2020

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Good Morning
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Morning
How ya doing sir ?

dewayne · Apr 26, 2020

Tacoma Mike said: ↑

Morning
How ya doing sir ?
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Morning Mike,getting the line ready at work to run.Supv. is out with her back,her assistant is out got exposed to corona and under quarintine so we supv. our selves pretty much. puts alot of extra stuff on us older guys, right now working the lineup as we have a hot job but the press was down last night,you are up early!

P2W · Apr 26, 2020

Magandang umaga
Coffee n such

Tacoma Mike · Apr 26, 2020

dewayne said: ↑

Morning Mike,getting the line ready at work to run.Supv. is out with her back,her assistant is out got exposed to corona and under quarintine so we supv. our selves pretty much. puts alot of extra stuff on us older guys..you are up early!
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Old man clock time.

Up at 5

I always found things went better without management around.

Let the workers do their thing the way it works for them.

Just be safe.

robssol · Apr 26, 2020

MTgirl said: ↑

OK...so rant about the RV dealer...its a long one so settle in.

Last Thursday 4/16 I first called and got the basic info on the camper. Talked with the sales guy again on Friday 4/17 and asked a few more questions.
I specifically told him that I:
A) wanted to test out all plumbing including the water heater and asked if they could blow the lines out after.
B) needed help getting it on the truck and getting the tie downs settled and
C) that the only part I knew I didn't have was the cord that hooks up the electric from the camper to the truck so that the brake lights work. Its not a universal, one size fits all sort of thing so...
I told him that I would be in on Friday 4/24 and he said that they had a spot in the schedule for 10am. Great. That gives them a week to get the inspection done and get everything ready for me. Several other calls throughout the week. Mentioned the above three items at least a couple more times. No problem with any of it mentioned by the sales guy.
The lot at the dealer is a U shape. You drive in the middle of the U and a fenced yard with RVs is on either side of you. And the end of the drive is the main showroom and service center. At the right is a staging area where they bring out the RVs that are getting picked up.
When I got there at 940 my camper wasn't in the staging area, it was still behind the fence. So I went into the showroom and the receptionist is on the phone. I saw the sign for the restrooms so I headed back there and then back to the front desk. Stood there for almost a full minute and the receptionist flat out ignored me. I said excuse me. Her head snapped up and she sort of off-handed asked if I had been helped. No, that's why I'm standing here you dumb . I told her I was there to see the salesman, Darren. Ok, he's on the phone. Fine. So I stand around for another 15 minutes. I ask her if she let him know I was there. Yep. OK. Next thing I know he comes out of the sales offices and introduces himself to me. Tells me he didn't know I was there. No one had told him I had been waiting. I gave the receptionist a look. She's on the phone again.
He takes me out to the camper and we do a quick walkthrough. I go through all of the cabinets, stove, heater, AC, climb up the ladder to check out the roof, back inside and I turn on the faucet. Nothing. I ask if they put water in it and why the faucet isn't working. Oh, no the techs always winterize it after they de-winterized it for their inspection. I reminded him that I wanted to check out the plumbing and water heater. OK, well they'll have to bring it back into the shop to put water in and that will take about an hour. How about we go in and take care of the paperwork now while they do that. No. Fucking hell no. I want to check everything out. So I leave for 90 minutes, come back and a different guy comes out. Says he's going to finish my walkthrough with me. Ok. I go in and turn on the tap. Ice cold. Why isn't the water heater working? Oh, they didn't turn it on, don't worry it only takes about 15-20 minutes to warm it up. Great but that 15 or 20 minutes could have been happening while I was gone and not while I'm standing there waiting again. OK. Well, why don't you get the camper on the truck while you wait? Fine. Are you helping me with that or is someone else? Oh, we don't do that. NEWS TO ME. I specifically told the sales guy that I was going to need help. I didn't bring any tools. The tie-downs are still in the boxes. They can't touch anything, they don't have any tools. I pretty much lost it at this point. Why didn't someone tell me this before I drove over by myself? I could have brought someone with me. I could have gotten the tie downs prepped at home. I had to drive over to the ACE hardware store to buy a wrench to take off my tailgate. $10 for two bolts. Then I had to carry the gate off by myself, thankfully it wasn't that heavy. Then I try to get parked and not wreck the camper but they put it so close to the curb that I've only got about 6 inches to move back and forth and get the truck lined up. The guy finally came out and I told him that they needed to put the camper back on the dolly and pull it back a few feet so I had room to maneuver the truck. He stayed out there to help me get backed in but he ended having me so crooked that I would have been better to do it by myself. So after going forward and reverse a hundred times and somehow not hitting the camper, I was in place. Took me another hour to get the tie-downs assembled. The water heater finally works. I go in to sign everything and they bring it back into the shop to blow out the lines. It's after 300 at this point. While I'm waiting for my truck and camper to come out of the shop I remember that I didn't hook up the power for the brake lights. I can't find either of the guys I've been dealing with. The truck comes out and I go to hook it up myself. But I can't find the cord. Back into the showroom, I go. Finally, find the second guy that I was dealing with and told him I can't find the cord. We go out, go through the cabinets again. I told him to get Darren, I had told him that I needed this and its nowhere to be found. Can't find Darren. Back in we go to the parts manager. Parts manager looks in their computer, nothing. Calls the other dealers in town, nothing. The cord is a special order item, no one has one in stock. Why the hell not? Did I ask about it a week ago? Why the hell wasn't it ordered then? So they take the truck and camper back into the shop again and get to work wiring in a new plug. At this point its a little after 4, they close at 5. I go back to the waiting area. I finally see Darren out on the sales floor and I went over and lit into him. I pretty much lost it at this point and chewed his ass for a good 10 minutes. He told me that he personally had looked for the cord and it was there. Then go tell the techs where it's at because they're working to rewire a new one in. He goes back, few minutes later he's back with me. Oh, it was the 30 amp to 110-volt cord I saw, not the brake cord. I lit into him again. The only three items I asked him about he either flat out lied to me or dropped the ball and didn't get it done. He walks away and goes back into the sales offices that have the two-way mirror in the windows. I don't see him the rest of the time that I'm there, the coward. About 445 all of the other customers are gone. Cashier at the parts counter closes out her till. Half the staff leave for the day. I decide to start pacing in front of the parts counter instead of waiting in the customer area in the back for fear that they'll lock me in for the night. At 515 they pull my truck back out. I go out to see what they had to do to get me lights and see a passable but not great plug Frankensteined up. The cord rubs up against the cab. Don't you have a plug that has a 90* to it? No. OK, fuck you too. I walked around to make sure the doors and cubbies were locked tight, checked the tie-downs again, and took off. No thank you for being so patient with my unparalleled incompetence from the salesman. If I had seen him in the lot as I drove away it would have taken some will power not to run him over.
I know that they're going to do a follow up call this week and sorry to the poor person who will get to listen to my tirade firsthand. I know none of my experience will be their fault but they need to know how shitty their service is. I will never set foot in that place again. And if I can help it neither will any of my family or friends. I was keeping in touch with my folks throughout the day and they are about as mad as me. I know that if it wasn't for the COVID thing right now they would have driven over with me. Not sure it would have helped but at least I would have had a little back up. Not sure if they were taking advantage of me being a girl on my own or what.
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WOW! That is terrible! When we bought our camper we had a great experience. They even came to our house picked it up and brought it back the next day (factory defect repair). I know customer satisfaction varies greatly in the RV industry. Some dealers just don't seem to care. But now you have your COVID hideout!

jwctaco · Apr 26, 2020

Good morning folks

Tacoma Mike · Apr 26, 2020

Morning.
About 60° yesterday.
About 28° this morning.

Quick Story.

I keep saying if you don’t know what the fuck you are doing on a vehicle.
DON’T TOUCH IT.

So many things to go wrong.
Common sense is not so common anymore.
So a man thinking he knows what he is doing decided to work on a fuel system.
So he decided to drain the fuel tank.
WITH A ELECTRIC PUMP.
All it took was one spark.

I might pressure wash the garage and shed today if it warms up enough.
Suppose to snow tonight (sick)

Maybe I might get the fly rods out and put them in my new rod bag I got for Christmas.
Arrange the “feather flippers” as a friend of mine says..

Be safe all

Hardscrabble · Apr 26, 2020

Good morning all. Another nice day here. Enjoy your Sunday folks.

MTgirl said: ↑

OK...so rant about the RV dealer...its a long one so settle in.

Last Thursday 4/16 I first called and got the basic info on the camper. Talked with the sales guy again on Friday 4/17 and asked a few more questions.
I specifically told him that I:
A) wanted to test out all plumbing including the water heater and asked if they could blow the lines out after.
B) needed help getting it on the truck and getting the tie downs settled and
C) that the only part I knew I didn't have was the cord that hooks up the electric from the camper to the truck so that the brake lights work. Its not a universal, one size fits all sort of thing so...
I told him that I would be in on Friday 4/24 and he said that they had a spot in the schedule for 10am. Great. That gives them a week to get the inspection done and get everything ready for me. Several other calls throughout the week. Mentioned the above three items at least a couple more times. No problem with any of it mentioned by the sales guy.
The lot at the dealer is a U shape. You drive in the middle of the U and a fenced yard with RVs is on either side of you. And the end of the drive is the main showroom and service center. At the right is a staging area where they bring out the RVs that are getting picked up.
When I got there at 940 my camper wasn't in the staging area, it was still behind the fence. So I went into the showroom and the receptionist is on the phone. I saw the sign for the restrooms so I headed back there and then back to the front desk. Stood there for almost a full minute and the receptionist flat out ignored me. I said excuse me. Her head snapped up and she sort of off-handed asked if I had been helped. No, that's why I'm standing here you dumb . I told her I was there to see the salesman, Darren. Ok, he's on the phone. Fine. So I stand around for another 15 minutes. I ask her if she let him know I was there. Yep. OK. Next thing I know he comes out of the sales offices and introduces himself to me. Tells me he didn't know I was there. No one had told him I had been waiting. I gave the receptionist a look. She's on the phone again.
He takes me out to the camper and we do a quick walkthrough. I go through all of the cabinets, stove, heater, AC, climb up the ladder to check out the roof, back inside and I turn on the faucet. Nothing. I ask if they put water in it and why the faucet isn't working. Oh, no the techs always winterize it after they de-winterized it for their inspection. I reminded him that I wanted to check out the plumbing and water heater. OK, well they'll have to bring it back into the shop to put water in and that will take about an hour. How about we go in and take care of the paperwork now while they do that. No. Fucking hell no. I want to check everything out. So I leave for 90 minutes, come back and a different guy comes out. Says he's going to finish my walkthrough with me. Ok. I go in and turn on the tap. Ice cold. Why isn't the water heater working? Oh, they didn't turn it on, don't worry it only takes about 15-20 minutes to warm it up. Great but that 15 or 20 minutes could have been happening while I was gone and not while I'm standing there waiting again. OK. Well, why don't you get the camper on the truck while you wait? Fine. Are you helping me with that or is someone else? Oh, we don't do that. NEWS TO ME. I specifically told the sales guy that I was going to need help. I didn't bring any tools. The tie-downs are still in the boxes. They can't touch anything, they don't have any tools. I pretty much lost it at this point. Why didn't someone tell me this before I drove over by myself? I could have brought someone with me. I could have gotten the tie downs prepped at home. I had to drive over to the ACE hardware store to buy a wrench to take off my tailgate. $10 for two bolts. Then I had to carry the gate off by myself, thankfully it wasn't that heavy. Then I try to get parked and not wreck the camper but they put it so close to the curb that I've only got about 6 inches to move back and forth and get the truck lined up. The guy finally came out and I told him that they needed to put the camper back on the dolly and pull it back a few feet so I had room to maneuver the truck. He stayed out there to help me get backed in but he ended having me so crooked that I would have been better to do it by myself. So after going forward and reverse a hundred times and somehow not hitting the camper, I was in place. Took me another hour to get the tie-downs assembled. The water heater finally works. I go in to sign everything and they bring it back into the shop to blow out the lines. It's after 300 at this point. While I'm waiting for my truck and camper to come out of the shop I remember that I didn't hook up the power for the brake lights. I can't find either of the guys I've been dealing with. The truck comes out and I go to hook it up myself. But I can't find the cord. Back into the showroom, I go. Finally, find the second guy that I was dealing with and told him I can't find the cord. We go out, go through the cabinets again. I told him to get Darren, I had told him that I needed this and its nowhere to be found. Can't find Darren. Back in we go to the parts manager. Parts manager looks in their computer, nothing. Calls the other dealers in town, nothing. The cord is a special order item, no one has one in stock. Why the hell not? Did I ask about it a week ago? Why the hell wasn't it ordered then? So they take the truck and camper back into the shop again and get to work wiring in a new plug. At this point its a little after 4, they close at 5. I go back to the waiting area. I finally see Darren out on the sales floor and I went over and lit into him. I pretty much lost it at this point and chewed his ass for a good 10 minutes. He told me that he personally had looked for the cord and it was there. Then go tell the techs where it's at because they're working to rewire a new one in. He goes back, few minutes later he's back with me. Oh, it was the 30 amp to 110-volt cord I saw, not the brake cord. I lit into him again. The only three items I asked him about he either flat out lied to me or dropped the ball and didn't get it done. He walks away and goes back into the sales offices that have the two-way mirror in the windows. I don't see him the rest of the time that I'm there, the coward. About 445 all of the other customers are gone. Cashier at the parts counter closes out her till. Half the staff leave for the day. I decide to start pacing in front of the parts counter instead of waiting in the customer area in the back for fear that they'll lock me in for the night. At 515 they pull my truck back out. I go out to see what they had to do to get me lights and see a passable but not great plug Frankensteined up. The cord rubs up against the cab. Don't you have a plug that has a 90* to it? No. OK, fuck you too. I walked around to make sure the doors and cubbies were locked tight, checked the tie-downs again, and took off. No thank you for being so patient with my unparalleled incompetence from the salesman. If I had seen him in the lot as I drove away it would have taken some will power not to run him over.
I know that they're going to do a follow up call this week and sorry to the poor person who will get to listen to my tirade firsthand. I know none of my experience will be their fault but they need to know how shitty their service is. I will never set foot in that place again. And if I can help it neither will any of my family or friends. I was keeping in touch with my folks throughout the day and they are about as mad as me. I know that if it wasn't for the COVID thing right now they would have driven over with me. Not sure it would have helped but at least I would have had a little back up. Not sure if they were taking advantage of me being a girl on my own or what.
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What a cluster! You have more patience than me. Customer service like that doesn't get my $$$.

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Evening Everyone !!!!!

Its alive and it's stupid fast , got it running about 2hrs ago !!!!!

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Sweet!

Tacoma Mike said: ↑

Old man clock time.

Up at 5

I always found things went better without management around.

Let the workers do their thing the way it works for them.

Just be safe.
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^^^This^^^
Let the workers do what they're trained to do.

Taco-Grinder · Apr 26, 2020

Good Morning All

I got a email from work. They moved back the date to start up full production. It was supposed to be May 4th. Now it June 15th.
This opens up some gray areas of the contract. I went back last week. They're checking our temps when we walk in. There was only 12 people in the whole plant. Six of those were maintenance folks. Not a whole lot for me to do.

Have a nice day and be safe

vssman · Apr 26, 2020

Good morning friends.
Rainy Sunday here. Work is reopening tomorrow with temperature checks and mandatory masks. I’ll go back to putting in a few hours and work from home the rest of the day.

Taco-Grinder · Apr 26, 2020

dewayne said: ↑

Morning Mike,getting the line ready at work to run.Supv. is out with her back,her assistant is out got exposed to corona and under quarintine so we supv. our selves pretty much. puts alot of extra stuff on us older guys, right now working the lineup as we have a hot job but the press was down last night,you are up early!
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Your lucky, you know who your supervisor is.
I got a new supervisor back in December. Said hi to him 3 times. Then in February another new guy was hired and he took over my area. Still haven't meet him. Don't know his phone number. I just do my job. Keeping the machine operators happy.
Stay out of trouble and keep a low profile.

kamakazie_1 · Apr 26, 2020

Morning all,

Working on STUFF, part of the honey do list and part little things on the truck..

Hope everyone has a great day, if out be safe..

RJ

Kolunatic · Apr 26, 2020

Happy Sunday y’all

Martin64 · Apr 26, 2020

Good morning.

MoneyMan55 · Apr 26, 2020

Kolunatic said: ↑

Happy Sunday y’all
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Welcome back Kevin, how goes the projects?

Kolunatic · Apr 26, 2020

MoneyMan55 said: ↑

Welcome back Kevin, how goes the projects?
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Hey Doug.
Still working on them but I have barn wired and power on.
Posted pic of ceiling work in my thread

MoneyMan55 · Apr 26, 2020

Kolunatic said: ↑

Hey Doug.
Still working on them but I have barn wired and power on.
Posted pic of ceiling work in my thread
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I will check it out. Doing small projects here as well. Working on plumbing in basement, hung a new ceiling fan for Amanda Thursday. This included rewiring and removing some existing wiring which I had been meaning to get to.

dewayne · Apr 26, 2020

Taco-Grinder said: ↑

Your lucky, you know who your supervisor is.
I got a new supervisor back in December. Said hi to him 3 times. Then in February another new guy was hired and he took over my area. Still haven't meet him. Don't know his phone number. I just do my job. Keeping the machine operators happy.
Stay out of trouble and keep a low profile.
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you all sounds like us. I dont see my supv. for weeks unless they have a huddle or something is wrong. I kind of like it that way and also keep a low profile

jwctaco · Apr 26, 2020

Cooldood said: ↑

On more old guy here
i am covering all my plants getting ready for one more fing snowstorm tonight
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