What are you paying for 2020 Tacomas?

Got confused there, I'm guessing you meant after rebate which would be $38115, and your 14.8% way its worded seems like you only got 12% off MSRP w/the $39865. And congrats I know you've been waiting a long time.

 

Not as good of a deal. I paid $2k less for my similar truck and MSRP w/out the rebate back in Feb (MSRP $44.8k, paid $39.2k no rebate). The pro is gonna hold resale better if that matters to you.

 

Edited lol. It’s been a long day. I think I’ve crunched too many numbers today

 

All good homie, understand and congrats on a great deal and sweet rig.

 

I was planning to counter offer on the 2020 with $38,000 and see what they say.

 

Thats more than 15% on a pretty desirable config, depending on your region that might be a stretch, if you can get them to $38500 that would be a solid deal. Honestly if the pro is in your wheel house you could probably get them down even more as we are now 4 months into the new year and sales down, I bet they will deal more off MSRP than the 20. Sounds like you got a plan though. By the way that 20 does not have the LED headlights, just the DTRL

https://www.caldwelltoyota.com/inve...-offroad-4wd-4d-double-cab-3tmcz5an5lm338666/

 

Actually I did misread that about the LED headlights. Thanks you are correct. I am not in a huge hurry to get rid of my old truck but have been looking for about 6 months. I have driven the 2019 and 2020 and I like the power seats better however it isn't a deal breaker IF I can grab a good deal on a 2019 Pro. Will counter offer on the Pro and see what they say.

 

Both are really solid deals, I would see how low you can go on the Pro, my dealer literally took a voodoo blue pro in for $43k trade and sold it later that week for $46k, they hold their value just a tad better. I actually prefered the seats in my 2019, a) never had an issue with position prior to b) only one ever driving my truck c) the new seats are definitely not as comfortable. Good luck, post pics if you snag a new truck or any other offers you wanna run by us.

 

The 2020’s premium trucks went up a few notches in there tech package, like 8in screen, with apple/android play, remote start, power seats, key sensors open both driver and passenger doors.birds eye view camera’s. ( when you drive your car under 8mph, the camera stays on your screen( birds eye view or side views) comes in handy when you plan on hitting trails, or slowing down to a stop sign. Everything else is identical from suspensions to handling. Its all personal preference.

i was sold with the apple play and camera’s!

I think the 2019 PRO you’re looking at is a deal if that price you mentioned was OTD?

I was trying to haggle with my dealership for a used 2019 TRD PRO with 8000 miles for $45k OTD .. they wanted $48,500 OTD here in California. Turns out they had a 2020 TRD PRO and i got that for $50K OTD. It didnt make sense that there was only a $1500 difference between the 2 trucks. Just a perfect example of PRO’s holding there value. I attached the 2019 used PRO and the 2020 that i pulled the trigger on

 

Picked up a 2020 Tacoma TRD Off Road 4x4 AT Long Bed in Cement. Came with Advanced Tech, Premium Pack, All Weather Mats, Wheel Lock, TRD Shift Knob, Paint Protection Film.

MSRP: $45603
Discounts: $4028
Opted for 0% for 60 months instead of $1750 rebate.
Pre-tax and fees final price: $41575

Felt like this was a solid deal, there was only one other one of this build within 150 miles and they came no where close to this.

 

With all do respect you are trying to compare a used PRO and OTD which isnt the best way to go about it. You also are a bit confused on the packages. The TRD OR she listed has the regular tech package which does not have the 360 camera, so bascially if she chose the new 19 PRO she would only be missing out on a power seat, slightly bigger screen, remote start and apple car play, but be gaining a much better suspension, all the PRO aesthetics and of course the better resale as you alluded to with your negotiating a used one come trade in time.

OTD is a terrible way to try and negotiate and discuss on a forum where everyone is in different regions and may or may not be trading in, fees, etc. This is why you'll see us discussing % off MSRP. Both deals are close to 11-12% off MSRP, the difference is the PRO you almost never see get near that off MSRP and in the end will fetch higher resale.

But yes there are some differences between the two that she'll have to consider, but not that many. I bet she could get closer to 13-14% off MSRP on the left over PRO and be in a better place to negotiate given it being a left over and current circumstance than the 2020, dealer will be more apt to move on it and let the 20 sit a bit longer, just my 2 cents. And congrats on the new PRO. Brave man getting a black truck, did that once with my 16, never again, they do look sick though, lol.

 

My apologies for that. I was comparing a 19 to a 20 TRD PRO. But you are right. Its all aesthetics. The PRO does have better suspension, compared with the 2020 off-road
If she it worried about the aesthetics. I would definitely go get the pro since she is opting out of the tech package?
Out the door prices Is probably a California thing since we have the one of the highest tax rates and TTL rates, i forgot to consider other states that dont pay sales taxes on Vehicles and lower tax states. But anyways, to clear things up,it was about 9% of the ODT price of my $50K PRO. So my final price for the 2020 PRO was about $45,673+tax and Misc fee’s
So MSRP was $48,223, a savings of about $2900.. and like i mentioned for the used 2019 PRO, they would not budge on the $44,850 price plus tax and misc fee’s.. a good example of how the PRO’s hold its value. Hope i cleared things up a little

 

You're good bud! I just wanted to make sure she wasn't getting confused. CA is rough and sounds like you got a good deal. And I'll gladly trade you trucks Im sure you're already thinking about it but get her ceramic coated ASAP, as a prior black truck guy you'll thank me later!

 

Dude, I've always owned white cars, and went completely opposite with black, and it only takes hours after a wash for it to look dirty. Already put a ceramic coat so i could just rinse it off with water.
I feel like a got a good deal since new PRO’s are always MARKED UP in value and rarely really under MSRP. Our pandemic situation kinda made it happen to where dealerships got desperate i guess.

 

Yep, I've had a few super whites, cement, MGM, whatever the black was in 2016, silver sky and radiant red. Still love the black on the 3rd gens, so clean. Hopefully this pandemic and slowed production also helps with pro resale, I know last year my buddy who is a regional manager in AZ told me Toyota got a little over zealous and built a sh*t ton on 19 Pros, and as you can see they struggled moving them.

 

To put my search in prospective, there are two 2019 Tacoma Pro's in my area, one is black and the other is the one I got the quote on. Currently the difference in offers are a long way apart (I haven't hit the opposing dealer with the offer on the white one yet). I have actually driven both the 2019 Tacoma's in the Pro and Off Road version and have driven several of the 2020 Tacoma's. If you are wondering how much I care about the "technology packages" I currently drive a 1998 Chev Silverado Z71 with 233,000 miles on it and I have to physically put the key in the door lock to get into it, so the difference in a 7 inch and 8 inch screen isn't as important to me as getting a good deal. The quote I received was for $43,445 for a brand new 2019 Tacoma Pro. That does include the dealership document fees and required Gov. fee (all of $3). It does NOT include taxes, title, license fees from the state. It also doesn't include any trade or down payment amounts. So that is before any of those fees just to help clear up any confusion. I made a counter offer to exclude somethings and I am waiting to hear back on that counter offer.

All that being said I love this site and have read it for over a year without joining. I love it for this right here which is different perspectives on purchasing deals on Tacomas.

 

Does the black one have the snorkel or as we lovingly call it the dorkel? I'm a sucker for a murdered out Pro, if you can get them to beat the white one, Id say there's the deal. I know those 5.3L are pretty solid, hows the rest of the truck at 233k? Had a brief stint with one (4 months in a 2014, wasnt really for me).

 

Yes it has the dorkel too, but I HATE trying to keep black clean and trying to keep it from showing scratches (my chevy is burgundy and shows scratches and swirl marks). Now if they come down equal in price I will have to do a little sole searching lol.

 

Ceramic coatings now make dark colors 100 times more maintainable and manageable, if you wash properly you'll never see swirls or light scratches again and will only take running the hose over it to keep it clean more often than not.

 

My 1998 Chevy actually has the 5.7L or aka the vortec 350 in it. Replace the transmission at 202,000 miles and the front transfer case seals at 230,000. Minor issues other than that it's whole life and did most repair myself. Biggest issue currently is I need to replace the timing chain, and it needs the valves and heads reworked along with replacing the spider fuel assembly. Honestly it has been an awesome truck, but we just don't want to keep putting big money items in it at this point and we don't need three vehicles. Would rather take the money for those repairs and use it for a down payment on a new Tacoma.....and thus why I am posting here.