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4 speed AT vs. 5 speed AT

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by JPRICE55, Oct 28, 2010.

  1. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:17 PM
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    Hello Tacoma World! Brand new to the site, but it looks like it's a good one!! Anyways, so I currently don't have a Tacoma, but plan on getting soon. Right now I have my heart set on the double TRD Off-road package. However, the only thing bugging me, which brings me to my very first question: what's the difference between the 4 speed vs. 5 speed AT? Please don't leave anything out, even the minor details. Thanks ahead of time, and looking forward to be part of TW! -- Jim
     
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  2. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:34 PM
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  3. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:35 PM
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    i dont think 4sp auto is available on trd offroad?
     
    113tac, Oct 28, 2010
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  4. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:36 PM
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    I could be mistaken but I think the 4 spd is a 4 cyl and the 5 spd is a 6 cyl
     
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  5. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:38 PM
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    One has 4 speeds, the other has 5.

    But seriously, I approve of your avatar.
     
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  6. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:40 PM
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    I'm pretty sure the TRD off road only comes with the 5 speed auto or 6 speed manual. The 4 speed auto is for the four cylinder engine
     
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  7. Oct 28, 2010 at 6:41 PM
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  8. Oct 28, 2010 at 7:35 PM
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    Wow! Sorry guys, I feel real stupid right now. You're all right. I just checked my brochure that I downloaded from Toyota website. I totally did not see that when I read it :eek:. Not off to good start on TW, am I? Well, stay tuned for more stupid questions :)!!
     
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  9. Oct 28, 2010 at 7:37 PM
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    Thanks!
     
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  10. Oct 29, 2010 at 10:03 AM
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    LMAO...bet I can give you more stupid answers than stupid questions you can ask......There are maybe a handful of rocket scientist on here that really know our trucks...you'll see in time who to listen to...
     
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    One more stupid question for the thread please, I just figured it out that there are 4S and 5S AT’s for the Tacomas I read that 5S are for TRD off-road, but how about TRD sport? Just to be sure on what A/T fluid to to buy for a change
     
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  12. Mar 10, 2020 at 9:57 AM
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    the only spot you will find the older 4 speed auto is when paired with the 4 cylinder motor.... 4 cylinder motors never came in any TRD truck (sport or off road)
     
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  13. Mar 10, 2020 at 12:39 PM
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    Thanks a lot. And do you think that Valvoline Maxlife Full Synthetic Multi vehicle ATF is a good option?
     
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  14. Mar 10, 2020 at 1:02 PM
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    The difference is the 4speed has been around for about 30 years, is dirt simple, and actually works. They of course mate it to only the 4 cylinder trucks.

    The 5 speed is very complicated and gets confused on the most basic tasks like swapping cogs. 5 speed shift logic "I see you are acelerating from a stop at mid throttle...let's get you into 5th gear now"
     
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    5 Speed is just as bullet proof, works well if you know how to use it, and with my latest trasmission tune that adjust shift points / torque converter lockup it behaves even better.
     
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    If you really want to be safe, use Toyota WS (World Standard) ATF.
     
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  17. Mar 10, 2020 at 2:34 PM
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    How to use it?

    You put it in D and use the skinny pedal. Maybe I'm doing it wrong...
     
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    Just some stuff...
    10 year old thread...
     
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    Just wondering, if the 4 cyl. is OK with 4 gears, why in the heck would the 6 cyl., with 100 more HP need 5 gears. My 4 cyl. 4 spd. auto needs another gear, between 3 & D. Mine in D, 60mph. is 1800 rpm. & straining to just keep going, 3 is appx. 2500 rpm. @ 60 mph. and pulls great. It seems appx 2100 or 2200 rpm. @ 60 mph. would be perfect. I don't care if thread is 10 yrs old, I'm still not happy.
     
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