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Dobinsons 2016-2023 Taco Suspension Options

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Crikeymike, Feb 7, 2017.

  1. Apr 29, 2020 at 3:07 PM
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    Shoot me a PM for the TW discount code. :thumbsup:
     
  2. Apr 29, 2020 at 6:57 PM
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    What’s right coils I can run with bilstein 5100? I only want 2” lift.
     
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  3. Apr 29, 2020 at 11:33 PM
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    Looking at doing a Dobinson lift after being introduced to the brand by my 4x4 shop, especially after reading the large majority of positive comments seems like a step up from 5100’s. Based on everyone’s experience want to make sure I’m on the right track parts wise for my build.

    My goal is to achieve 2-2.5” leveled lift, stock UCA’s on 275/70/17 with a 0 offset 4.75 backspace wheel. Truck will have a bedrack and RTT mounted in the summer, no weight in winter. Don’t plan on having aftermarket bumpers or wench.

    I am looking at installing the 314 coils paired with 221 struts in front, the rear will have the 941’s with a AAL. (Thinking this will better support weight over the block but stay budget friendly, but open to comment)

    Thoughts? Any concerns I should have with alignment, rubbing, leveling or other?
     
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  4. Apr 30, 2020 at 6:58 AM
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  5. Apr 30, 2020 at 7:03 AM
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    The front is correct for 2" with stock weight.

    Maybe some others will chime in with their experience with AAL's

    You won't have any alignment issues up front, as long as the shop knows what they're doing.
     
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    If not AAL. Has there been much experience with bed weight on the rear blocks? How do they hold up?
     
  7. Apr 30, 2020 at 6:31 PM
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    Stock springs can handle all the way up to GVWR but they squat pretty easily under weight, so a lot upgrade the springs for constant accessory weight and also to gain more height. AAL's will do this, lift blocks won't do anything to add support of course, but they will add some height. And full leaf packs are ideal when specific constant weight is added. Those specs are back in the first post. If you're not adding too much, leave the stock springs in and see how it does then you can upgrade after.
     
  8. Apr 30, 2020 at 6:33 PM
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    What do you mean by "skip" the greasable leaf spring bolts? Like not even bother ordering them with the kit?
     
  10. May 6, 2020 at 11:36 AM
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    Hey Mike,

    Looking to order this kit. Couple of questions though, with the 314 coils and the 220 shocks, what would the overall lift height be on a 2020 double cab short bed TRD offroad?

    The truck would be at stock height front with occasional stuff in the rear (dirt bike lol).
     
  11. May 6, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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    Hey man.

    314's with 220's will be 3" with stock weight up front on that model.
     
  12. May 6, 2020 at 11:44 AM
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    Thank you for the quick reply, making me decide even faster lol. Would you guys recommend a diff drop or a carrier bearing drop for that height? Would it settle down below 3"?
     
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    I do suggest a diff drop kit at 3" height for insurance for your CV's. Carrier bearing drop for the rear is a good idea as well.

    It should be right at 3" with stock weight. Add any weight to it, that will bring down the coils.
     
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    Thank you for the info!

    What seems to be the most popular combination that you see for the tacomas?

    There seems to be a lot of variety to choose from and I am just a bit confused. What are the differences between the 221 and 220? Aside from the extra 1" lift
     
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  15. May 6, 2020 at 2:47 PM
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    That's the thing, not everyone wants the same thing, and they way they build them these days can vary so much, so we have all these different options to suit all different setups.

    3" front and 2" rear is super common, but some want 2.5"/2", or 2"/2", it all depends.

    Check out post #1 for this thread too to see all the options and specs. The 220's are taller and have a taller coil seat to suit the extra lift height (used for 3" lifts generally). The 221's use a stock height coil seat height, so the lift comes from the coils used on those.
     
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  16. May 6, 2020 at 7:36 PM
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    I installed the Dobinsons kit and really like the look and the ride is so much better. Nose dive when braking is gone. Handles bumps and dips on the road much nicer. Even my wife is impressed and said the truck rides better now than before!

    Here is what I used.

    Dobinsons kit:
    C59-352 Coil springs
    GS59-221 front shocks
    L59-110-R leaf springs
    GS59-940 rear shocks
    Top mount spacer ¼ inch for taco lean

    Truck has:
    210 lbs front (winch & bumper, don’t know what the crap I took off weighed)
    Also RCI front skid (don't know the weight)
    125 lbs rear bumper (again, don’t know what the OEM rear bumper with receiver weighed)

    After putting on the bumpers and winch.
    Front down 1/2 inch
    Rear down 3/8 inch

    Difference from bumpers and winch to bumpers, winch, and lift
    Front up 2 inches (no taco lean thanks to the spacer)
    Rear up 1 3/4 inches

    The difference between the left and right side rear is less now than before the springs. Left used to be 7/8 lower than right and now only 1/2 lower than right side. I guess these springs handle the gas tank weight better. Gas amount is pretty much the same since I haven't driven anywhere with the stay at home order in Louisiana.

    Thanks @Crikeymike for all the information. If you need anything Mike is the guy to talk to.

    Also, thanks to @cubie for posting about the emergency brake hoop. I drilled out the hole in the hoops and attached them to the front leaf spring brackets. Works like a charm. (@Crikeymike told me about this and sent me a link to @cubie post, thanks Mike.)

    Here is before and after. I tried to line the wheels up for the comparison.
    LIft Compare.jpg
     
  17. May 6, 2020 at 8:55 PM
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    That is my opinion. I did get the greasible bolts but if I had to again I would just reuse the existing bolts and grease them during reinstall. I question how much grease actually gets through the zerk, and into the friction points.
     
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    Gotcha, thanks. I asked Mike in a PM and he basically said the same thing. Installing my kit this weekend, pictures to come!!
     
  20. May 7, 2020 at 4:29 AM
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    Drilling the e-brake bracket and attaching it to the front-most spring clamp, is the best way to go with the rear springs. Just take a pair of pliers and bend the bracket to follow the contours of the e-brake cable, and you're good to go! Truck looks great man!
     
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