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Pricing for v8 swap??

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by DanaPtTaco, May 6, 2020.

  1. May 6, 2020 at 4:08 PM
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    DanaPtTaco

    DanaPtTaco [OP] Never-ending problems

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    So I recently threw a rod bearing on my 4.0 and am pretty much gonna need a new engine. I’ve been doing a lot of research and have tried emailing some shops but none have gotten back to me for some reason. So I’m gonna ask the question here, how much more expensive would it be to put a 4.7 v8 from a 4Runner into my 07 rather than just putting another 4.0 in? Either way I would just be getting the engine from a junkyard so I’m just curious what the price difference would be because a 4.7 v8 in this truck sounds like a dream but I’m not sure how feasible it is. I know some members have done it but I can’t find the specific person to ask them. And before it gets said, no I’m not gonna put an ls in it.
     
  2. May 6, 2020 at 4:09 PM
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    4.7L is like early 90's tech... and would be much harder and much more expensive then say an LS swap.
     
  3. May 6, 2020 at 4:14 PM
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  4. May 6, 2020 at 4:32 PM
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    DanaPtTaco [OP] Never-ending problems

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    From what I’ve researched, the 4.7 Bolts right into the transmission with no problems and a lot of the wiring is the same so it is much more “plug n play” compared to other v8s. Also, I forgot to mention that I have nowhere near the amount of experience, tools, and know how to be able to do even just a direct replacement. The most technical thing I’ve done is a valve cover gasket change and even that was a challenge for me. So a shop would be doing the swap so time is a big factor in this because the more little things that need to be done = a lot more money. Because of all this I believe the 4.7 is the best option if I were to go to a v8. But I could very easily be wrong this is just what I gathered from the research I’ve done
     
  5. May 6, 2020 at 4:40 PM
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    Depending on the overall mileage on your truck, as well as the condition of everything from the frame up, you may be better off to buy another truck and sell your's 'as is'.

    When you are strapped like this

    and you lack the ability to 'de-bug' post install hiccups, your out the door bill is gonna be pretty stiff.

    Engine swaps are certainly doable, but only practical for the DIYr with good resources or those with deep pockets.

    The cheapest way to keep driving the truck is a used 4.0. And with outsourcing the labor, even that won't be 'cheap', done right.
     
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  6. May 6, 2020 at 4:53 PM
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    Thank you! Everywhere I read they said the 4.7 is super simple and easy since they share many of the same components but I wasn’t sure what they were comparing it to. The truck has 198k miles and has only lived I. Socal so the frame and all that is in good condition. I’ll most likely just do the same engine replace me to was just curious how feasible it would have been. Thanks again!
     
  7. May 6, 2020 at 4:57 PM
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    Like, so many.
    If you do the v8, PLEASE make a thread about it.
     
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  8. May 6, 2020 at 5:04 PM
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    Oh I definitely would, that’s one of those things you HAVE to tell the world about
     
  9. May 6, 2020 at 6:12 PM
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    +10hp and +50ftlbs for a huge pain in the ass swap? No thanks. The 4.7 is great, but it's not a power house.

    I'm for a used 4.0
     
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    Damn I didn't know it was so close in power to the 4.0

    Would get more power by supercharging the v6
     
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    If the 4runner 4.0 was feasable it would be the best swap, but the complexities and cost of the 2010+ 1GR VVTI isn't worth the HP.

    Last time I checked it was 6000$ for a used 4runner 1GR
     
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    I think the 4.7 would be a good swap to do on the 2nd gen, but I definitely wouldn't have a shop do it unless it was a motor swap that they do pretty frequently. Also if you're not mechanically capable of troubleshooting and fixing issues that may arise, forget it.
     
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    Thank you everyone for all the great info, I’m definitely going to be going with just a 4.0 replacement. I was just curious cause who wouldn’t want a v8 and if there were ever a time this would have been it. It’s just not worth it though and I don’t need the headache. Thanks!
     
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    Those are peak numbers so it’s pretty close to a worthless statement. The 4.7L is making wayyy more power and torque down low and sounds so much better than the 4.0 all day long... even at night, lol, because V8.
    And you can still supercharge it too! It’s a worthwhile swap for sure because it can be made smog legal but it’s only worthwhile if one has the means to do it themselves because it’s far from plug n play. Probably why none of the shops responded to the OP
     
  16. May 6, 2020 at 9:23 PM
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    A simple “no” from a shop would have been nice :rofl:
     
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    "If you have to ask then you can't afford it."
     
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    Are you gonna be daily driving the truck? If not, why not get a trophy truck engine? Way more hp and probably better installation/maintenance/diagnostic support?
     
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    This truck is my daily and will be for as long as possible
     
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    Have you considered replacing it with a 4.0 and doing a URD SC on it? May be less of a headache than swapping a motor that never came in the rig.

    I'm doing a 4.0 replacement right now and considered diesel, v8, 2jz, etc and settled on a used 4.0 replacement (with 6-month warranty) because I didn't want to deal with the hassle of wiring, new mounts, tranny, TC, etc depending on which engine I went with.

    A URD SC is like 6k and is plug and play. So for around 7-9k you can have a low mileage 4.0 with a SC on it. That's if you're looking for more power than the 4.0 delivers and you don't want to deal with all the additional custom work and time figuring out a v8 swap.

    I guess it depends on you're doing all the work or have the budget to pay someone to figure it all out, and how custom and crazy you want to go.
     

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