1. Welcome to Tacoma World!

    You are currently viewing as a guest! To get full-access, you need to register for a FREE account.

    As a registered member, you’ll be able to:
    • Participate in all Tacoma discussion topics
    • Communicate privately with other Tacoma owners from around the world
    • Post your own photos in our Members Gallery
    • Access all special features of the site

Alternator smoking after jump start...

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by philwill, May 6, 2020.

  1. May 6, 2020 at 2:54 PM
    #21
    loudboy

    loudboy Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2008
    Member:
    #10028
    Messages:
    274
    Gender:
    Male
    Portland, OR
    Vehicle:
    '04 4x4 TRD Off-Road Limited
    All-Pro lift, Addicted tube bumper, Revenge sliders, stuff and crap
    Well, kinda.

    The Taco's alternator had a much larger demand on it when connected to the two large batteries versus the one smaller battery it's designed for. Sounds like OP was using his alternator to charge the diesel's batteries instead of using his battery to provide the power to start the diesel itself, which is how the jump should have been done.

    So OP smoked his alternator by running it under full load for too long trying to charge the big batteries, batteries which will happily draw as many amps as can be provided. Poor little Taco.
     
  2. May 6, 2020 at 3:00 PM
    #22
    gasgasman

    gasgasman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2012
    Member:
    #87933
    Messages:
    388
    Gender:
    Male
    Exactly.
    Factor in the resistance of the jumper cables. you can see why the Taco had issues.
    The Taco had to be hooked up to the diesel for hours to recharge the batteries to properly light off the diesel engine.
     
    philwill[OP] likes this.
  3. May 6, 2020 at 3:07 PM
    #23
    TireFire

    TireFire Superunknown Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2016
    Member:
    #177349
    Messages:
    7,666
    Olympic Peninsula
    I see why you are a land rover master tech :rofl:
     
    whatstcp likes this.
  4. May 6, 2020 at 3:15 PM
    #24
    MR5X5

    MR5X5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2019
    Member:
    #309141
    Messages:
    515
    Gender:
    Male
    Agreed. It's an alternator thing not a battery size thing. I suspect the diesel Alt is only spec'd at 140 amps or so. Still surprised the Taco alt smoked. Not sure what the duty cycle is at max output, but I would have guessed something close to continuous?? I'd be curious why the F250 bats were dead and whether or not he had a shorted cell in or two in his system.

    And all this talk about grounding to the frame during jumping..sure, whatever...but the hydrogen bomb risk is negligible.
     
    SC4333 and Gunshot-6A like this.
  5. May 6, 2020 at 3:25 PM
    #25
    MR5X5

    MR5X5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2019
    Member:
    #309141
    Messages:
    515
    Gender:
    Male
    Brushes melting? :bananadead:
     
    Gunshot-6A and philwill[OP] like this.
  6. May 6, 2020 at 3:28 PM
    #26
    TexasWhiteIce

    TexasWhiteIce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Member:
    #43160
    Messages:
    5,345
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2022 White DCLB SR5 - Blackout
    And this is why I like having a jump n carry. Help others without screwing myself. Also good to be able to self-jump your own battery without waiting for anyone. Highly recommended.
     
    b_r_o likes this.
  7. May 6, 2020 at 3:32 PM
    #27
    b_r_o

    b_r_o Gnar doggy

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2016
    Member:
    #202672
    Messages:
    14,016
    First Name:
    Alex
    WA
    Vehicle:
    2015 DCLB
    you answered your own question. A shorted battery on the diesel would create an "infinite hole" of voltage that the little taco alt would try to fill
     
    0xDEADBEEF likes this.
  8. May 6, 2020 at 3:33 PM
    #28
    MR5X5

    MR5X5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2019
    Member:
    #309141
    Messages:
    515
    Gender:
    Male
    I jumped a stone dead 351 with a little hand held over the winter. Absolutely blew me away that it worked. Part of my travel bag now.
     
  9. May 6, 2020 at 3:37 PM
    #29
    TexasWhiteIce

    TexasWhiteIce Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2010
    Member:
    #43160
    Messages:
    5,345
    Gender:
    Male
    Texas
    Vehicle:
    2022 White DCLB SR5 - Blackout
    I have this one. Only have to recharge once a year. Fits perfectly in the compartment behind the driver side rear seat in my double cab, and pretty much jumps anything. Used it on some dude’s v8 ram one time and it jumped it like a champ.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JFJLP...olid=210CAX2LL742X&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
     
  10. May 6, 2020 at 3:40 PM
    #30
    double_duez

    double_duez Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2018
    Member:
    #242132
    Messages:
    67
    Gender:
    Male
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    2017 TRD OR DCSB
    OVTune
  11. May 6, 2020 at 3:41 PM
    #31
    Yettee

    Yettee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2012
    Member:
    #84364
    Messages:
    223
    Gender:
    Male
    Long Beach, CA
    Vehicle:
    2019 White Tacoma TRD OR 4x4
  12. May 6, 2020 at 3:45 PM
    #32
    MR5X5

    MR5X5 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2019
    Member:
    #309141
    Messages:
    515
    Gender:
    Male
    I used one of these in a 1000mAh model. About the size of two decks of cards. Up to 400 Amps cranking output.

    https://www.amazon.com/AC56388-Ultr...keywords=type+s+battery&qid=1588804891&sr=8-2
     
  13. May 6, 2020 at 4:00 PM
    #33
    HighCountryTacoma

    HighCountryTacoma Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2017
    Member:
    #219192
    Messages:
    1,987
    Gender:
    Male
    Colorado
    Vehicle:
    2017 DCSB TRD Off Road Quicksand
    This comparison was posted in another thread. I'll save ya the 20 min and tell you the Audew comes out on top. That being said I have a GB 70 and have been quite happy with it.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8A2nIMUWA
     
    Yettee likes this.
  14. May 6, 2020 at 6:22 PM
    #34
    philwill

    philwill [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Member:
    #175681
    Messages:
    148
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Phillip
    Atlanta, GA
    Vehicle:
    '07 TRD Offroad
    '12-'15 front end swap, 255/80/17s on stock suspension
    I only had it revved up for the few seconds while he was trying to crank his, and he did that a couple times. Otherwise I was idling most of the time.

    The guy had his daughter spraying starting fluid into the intake while he was cranking it so I have a feeling the truck had some issues going on...looked like it had seen better days. That maybe should've been my hint to say good luck and peel out. Live and learn.

    Maybe I can take a peak at what the melted one looks like before the shop returns it for a core
     
    Skyway likes this.
  15. May 6, 2020 at 7:32 PM
    #35
    Slum Lord

    Slum Lord Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2020
    Member:
    #314975
    Messages:
    139
    Gender:
    Male
    An alternator is designed to work at max load. 10 minutes is not that long. Your Taco alternator is not much smaller then what is probably on that diesel truck unless it has some commercial grade setup.

    Not to mention if the Taco is idling the alternator isn't even putting out maximum current. Now revving it helps but doesn't sound like you were sitting there for 10 minutes with your foot on the throttle.

    Chances are your alternator was on it's way out and this just gave it the final kick.
     
    Bob K, jetfishn, Gunshot-6A and 2 others like this.
  16. May 6, 2020 at 7:36 PM
    #36
    philwill

    philwill [OP] Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2016
    Member:
    #175681
    Messages:
    148
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Phillip
    Atlanta, GA
    Vehicle:
    '07 TRD Offroad
    '12-'15 front end swap, 255/80/17s on stock suspension
    It has been on there for 275k miles...
     
    Gunshot-6A, JimIowa, TegoTaco and 2 others like this.
  17. May 6, 2020 at 8:18 PM
    #37
    Skyway

    Skyway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2016
    Member:
    #190731
    Messages:
    2,947
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ande'
    St.Pete
    Vehicle:
    White 2009 regular cab
    :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    :thumbsup: it is a funny post tho'
     
    philwill[QUOTED][OP] likes this.
  18. May 6, 2020 at 8:20 PM
    #38
    Skyway

    Skyway Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2016
    Member:
    #190731
    Messages:
    2,947
    Gender:
    Male
    First Name:
    Ande'
    St.Pete
    Vehicle:
    White 2009 regular cab
    :eek: you got all the good out of that ALT!
     
  19. May 6, 2020 at 9:50 PM
    #39
    Muddinfun

    Muddinfun Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Member:
    #216500
    Messages:
    7,489
    Starting fluid? Yikes! Starting fluid + glow plug diesel motor = boom!
     
    Skyway, Gunshot-6A and Jimmyh like this.
  20. May 6, 2020 at 9:55 PM
    #40
    OldManTacoFeels

    OldManTacoFeels The bells of tacos

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2019
    Member:
    #310103
    Messages:
    527
    First Name:
    Billy Jr.
    Vehicle:
    2012 DCLB SR5
    Bilstein 5100s, AFE dry intake, Icon AAL pack, Bed stiffeners, and ideally some UCAs soon
    I'm going to catch so much shit for this but once upon a time I tried jump started a friend's car at a party while I was drunk and (surprise surprise) I hooked up the batteries in reverse and melted and jumper cables and fried my electronics in my first car
     
    JimIowa likes this.
To Top