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The LED SAE J583 Fog Pod & Fog Light Review

Discussion in 'Lighting' started by crashnburn80, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. May 7, 2020 at 3:01 PM
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    yep, sorry, for a arb bumper, and wtf, i didnt even know i got a choice on that bezel lol. was about to machine it smaller lol
     
  2. May 7, 2020 at 3:08 PM
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    Yep, 4 different options. Standard, Round, Flush, Angled bucket. Probably would be much easier with standard instead of the rounds. :) Although the rounds will probably look more finished when done in the bumper.
     
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    I followed your instructions, worked well. Still tweaking the aiming on mine as I intend to use mine on the road, erred on the side of caution and probably aimed them a little too low but they’re still throwing a LOT more light than stock and the cutoff is very tight.
     
  4. May 7, 2020 at 5:07 PM
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    Nice brackets, I made some too for my driving lights. The square bezel is very compact.

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    Yeah, I learned that pretty quick. I tried to use them like my highs for bad weather and they worked awesome for that.

    Mine just has some little molded tabs that I had to trim, you can kind of see them here behind the light (this them mounted upside down)00100lrPORTRAIT_00100_BURST20200404083938556_COVER-01.jpg
     
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    I mounted a $3 L bracket first then used the normal mount from the rear. That way I can adjust level and left/right up/down.
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  7. May 8, 2020 at 2:04 AM
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    First time reader of this thread. I read the first page great write up. I have a question and hopefully someone can link me into the right direction. I currently have the BD squadron sport WC in amber. But what im looking for is a housing replacement that has street legal dual colors (amber and bright white)in one housing thats not garbage. Can anyone direct me to a good light thanks
     
  8. May 8, 2020 at 2:26 AM
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    To my knowledge such a housing does not exist. Everything I have ever seen that is dual color is trash.
     
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    I guess that’s why I couldn’t find any kits. Thanks for the info. I’ll guess I will try a different route
     
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    Any particular reason you want dual colors?
     
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    There are no dual color SAE fogs. Typically dual color LED lights are using 2 emitters, one for each color. In order for a beam pattern to project correctly, you must place the emitter in the center of the optic. If you have 2 emitters neither can be centered, which means neither will project correctly and your pattern will not be compliant. Alternatively you could center one for 'correct' beam performance and the other will be completely off and produce a terrible beam pattern with likely high amounts of glare. The concept sounds catchy, but the execution is severely flawed. Anyone promoting something otherwise is definitely not selling an SAE product. If you really want both colors in an SAE pattern, your best bet is to run two sets of SAE lights, a white version and a yellow one. In the case of the Diode Dynamics lights, you can also swap the lenses for different colors if you were looking for a seasonal adjustment, but it obviously wouldn't be push button on the fly.

    Edit: Also be sure to note all the updated links at the very top of the thread with the fogs that have been released since the thread was originally posted.
     
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    By their nature, dual color LED products like headlight and fog light replacement bulbs have different colored emitters located in separate spots on the assembly, which would make them impossible to focus correctly with any optic.

    The best you could hope for is using white fogs with snap on covers, like the Diode Dynamics SS3.

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    I like the amber color for the actual fog and snow. when its clear out the white light on the highway is nice for extra illumination
     
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    Got it. Like stated above, your best bet is to go with white fogs and use amber covers when needed
     
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    Whoops, I must not have seen the next page of responses, or forgot to refresh. Sorry for the redundancy!
     
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    If your use is for poor weather conditions you are better off getting true 3000k yellow fogs like the DD SS3 selective yellow. Amber is not able to penetrate the air moisture as well and this will cause them to not illuminate the road as much.
     
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    that seems backwards, Amber is better in heavy rain/snow etc because it cuts through and doesn't reflect
     
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    Sorry "penetrate" might not have been the right word. The ability of yellow 3000k to carry higher intensity over a longer distance while in those weather conditions compared to amber.
     
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    As I understand it, the specific mechanism or justification for yellow or amber lights had to do with how light of different wavelengths transmits and is reflected or refracted by dust and moisture. The wavelength that corresponds to blue reflects much more readily than yellow, using two extreme examples.

    White, or what we perceive as white, had more blue in it to achieve that color temperature. Amber has less blue, yellow less still. So, amber does work better than true white with regards to penetrating, or not being reflected, by moisture and fog. Yellow, being even further from white in color temperature should work better.

    Besides, you get +20 Instagram cred for yellow fogs.
     
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    Longer wavelength light reflects/scatters less, and warmer color temperatures are easier for human eyes to process. Amber and Selective Yellow both remove the the short wavelength light from the spectrum that causes reflection off of precipitation. The difference is selective yellow tends to be higher intensity in output and provides a better (wider) color spectrum as well as better contrast, making it easier to visually process. Vs amber which tends to be more monochromatic, lower in output and doesn't provide good contrast, which makes the light color far more challenging to visually process. So while both remove short wavelength light for improved poor weather performance, selective yellow is the higher performing color.
     

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