1st gen engine swap options, and related BS

Hey y'all purely a BS thread here... but Covid shutdown boredom has got the best of me and i couldn't find a good discussion/bs threads on this.

Lets talk 1st gen engine swap options. now we could talk about the obvious, if somewhat boring, option of swapping a 2.7L or 2.4L 4-banger with a 3.4 V6... but that seems just a little bit too conventional. Here's what i've come up with so far:

4BT cummins turbo diesel

R2.8 Cummins turbo diesel

4.7L Tundra V8

Supercharge the original engine

turbo charge the original engine

2JZ swap!

Mercedes Turbo Diesel

VW TDI Turbo Diesel

Toyota 1KZ Turbo Diesel

427 ci SBC V8 or another "big block"

Ford 5.0 "Coyote" V8

Toyota 1HD-FTE Aussie 6cyl 4.2L turbo diesel

or something bigger, better, and more powerful that i haven't come up with yet

Let me know if there's an option that i haven't listed and i'll add it.

 

i actually bought my 05 tundra sight unseen just knowing it ran so i could swap the engine into a tacoma.


but then i decided to fix the truck. the 4.7 Is a beast of an engine

 

that's what i hear. after i sold my old 1st gen i debated buying a first gen tundra. I wanted a V8 but ended up settling on the the truck i've got now to keep the ease of parking and maneuverability. a V8 swap is on Stage III of my future mods list for my build... or maybe a Cummins Swap or a Supercharger. i've got a little time to decide as i'm not planning on messing with the engine until stuff starts breaking more or the truck becomes a weekend rig. Plus if i were to actually do something like this i'd have to figure out the money... but isn't that the issue with all mods worth doing

 

4.7 in my taco is my dream. Only truck id sell mine for is a first gen tundra but i would love even more to have its drivetrain in this truck just like u said to keep the maneuverability of a small truck. Plus it would moooove forsure

 

my tundra with the cap weighs damn near what my double cab taco would weight with the v8.. i can say, the pep from an 05-06 VVTI v8 is amazing. 286 HP dont sound like much. but that torque is amazing

 

there's a guy on youtube with a channel called Whipbash that is trying to do a 5.7 swap into a second gen. i used to keep up with his videos but i lost interest after a while. another bucket list build of mine is to take a 2nd gen 2wd prerunner and do a full LT Baja prerunner build with it. complete with SC'd 5.7 too. don't plan on ever selling my first gen tho... or dding a 2wd so that poses two big issues right there. guess i'll just need to start saving

 

I think the 4.7 would be a pretty easy swap for a 2nd gen taco. 4th gen 4runner had the 4.7 stock... 2nd gen tacos pretty close.

 

that's a good point. only thing that would make me do a 4.7 into a 2nd gen instead of a 5.7 would be if the motor mounts lined up closer. there is no replacement for displacement! that said though, the 4.7 might be easier to shoehorn into the engine bay...

 

wiring and what not would be easier too. cost of a 4.7 vs a 5.7 would also allow some extra cash to put into a 4.7 to make it make more power.

the 5.7 is a fine engine. but it as ALOT more going on and its an open deck aluminum block. the 4.7 is simpler, closed deck iron block. throw some good rods and pistons in it with a turbo and you have a monster

 

now we're talking. but out of curiosity why a turbo instead of a SC?

 

One of the Cummins options would be my choice if money was no problem. I prefer diesel for the efficiency and power capabilities. Best bang for the buck though would just be to turbo the 2.7, they're capable of 3-400hp in stock form and significantly more with engine and fueling mods. I'd like to turbo my 3rz just for fun. As for a V8 swap I'd do the tried and true ls swap for the power potential and massive support.

 

solid pick. if it wasn't so damn expensive i'd seriously consider a Cummins R2.8 Crate engine for a swap on a DD. they get excellent fuel economy and can make a whole bunch of power to boot. plus a puff of black smoke every now and again looks pretty badass. Fred Williams, host of the show Dirt Every Day, helped cummins out with R&D on this engine. he put it in his jeep "Tube Sock" and if i remember correctly, averaged like 30 mpg on one wheeling trip. i'd go back and confirm but MT took all their old content down from youtube and i haven't felt like paying for Motortrend On Demand.

 

The engine flows enough that a properly sized turbo should do 500hp with next to no lag easy

 

makes sense, i'm a little bit hesitant with turbos. i've driven a handful of cars with them and all of them have had lag. of course, that could've just been the computer controlling the fuel when i floored it. i don't doubt that turbos can be done effectively and without lag though... look at how well they work with diesels.

 

Yeah, even the 4bt is hard to come by for cheap these days. It's cheaper to find an old box van with a 4bt and buy the whole thing vs. just the engine. I don't doubt 30mpg at all out of the 4 banger Cummins.

 

2JZ

 

Tell me about it... just about the only inexpensive used diesel truck without tons of miles is a 6.0L or 6.4L Powerstroke. Yuck! @madmax700r is doing a Cummins 4bt and SAS swap on a '98. i think that he just bought the full front half of a bread truck frame for the engine and trans. it's been a while since i've read through his thread though. if anyone is into diesel swaps you should check it out! excellent work.

 

but does it have V8 or Diesel sound?
In all seriousness that's another great option... especially if you're looking to make a lot of power. i'll add it to the list for people to vote on.

 

Neither believe it or not! If you look closer you’ll see my 3RZ supercharger haha

 

ahh, well we've gotta have the sound don't we... though i do love the way a straight 6 sounds too. let's just agree that all engines sound pretty damn good... except for those honda civics that ricers put "fart cans" on. the SC is the way to go though IMHO, turbos can be excellent in a lot of situations too but damn if a good old blower is tough to beat. I even like the sound too... even though some people think otherwise.