Is there any full-size truck other than Tundra that is actually reliable?

I say all this because I could use a full size but living in the city of Atlanta, it is arduous. I picked the Tacoma over the Tundra.

 

Lolz - if you say so. Point is, the eco-boost is a helluva a motor. I have no doubt the Tundra is stout BUT my F150 was a monster and sipped on the highway relatively speaking.

 

The engine and transmission are reliable because they’ve been built upon and improved instead of overhauled every few years. It’s a basic 6 speed transmission and an old fashioned naturally aspirated V8. It has plenty of tow capacity for the common man.

 

Definitely a good looking truck!!

 

why don't you research the Tundra a little here i'll help
https://www.tacomaworld.com/forums/tundras.144/

 

I would agree - and I'm swimming upstream here as I currently own a Tacoma but I definitely still miss my F150. <For me> the F150 combined massive, heavy duty capability with great features. None the less, I'm in a Tacoma for a reason. Opted out of the crew cab Tundra for nimbleness in the city. For day to day construction, the Tacoma is a bit space limited but I'm working on that.

 

I'm good. Made my decison on Tacoma. As I've said, this is a Toyota forum and I've owned a F150 before. I now own a Tacoma. Tundra is a good truck but it needs to evolve some, imo.

Newbie here, thx for the link!!!

 

I looked at Tundras two years ago when I was replacing my Tacoma and couldn't do it. The F-150 has 6 more MPG overall and significantly more available options for a comparable price. I just rolled over 50k and my two cents are this:

• My truck has 3.73 gears, the 10 speed auto, and the 2.7 EcoBoost. It's by far the best drivetrain of anything I've ever had. I average 21 MPG on my rural back road commute in the summer yet it'll still sprint to 60 in under 6 seconds and when I've had 6500 lbs behind it a couple of times it handles it great--absolutely no shortage of power. Transmission almost never does anything weird, always has an ideal ratio, yet doesn't feel like it's constantly shifting because it can skip gears. My only complaint is I have an XLT, so 2H, 4H, 4L, no 4 Auto like the upper trims get. My Tacoma flashed the 4WD indicator until it was actually in 4WD. The Ford seems to just flash that on a timer, so sometimes I think it's engaged, get back on the gas, and then it goes in with a bang.
• I custom ordered my truck, which was very cool. Unlike many others, you can build pretty much anything you want just keeping in mind that some options require a jump up in trim level. I got everything I wanted and nothing I didn't. I placed the order at the dealer, agreed on price, and as soon as Ford accepted the order I got tracking information. They sent me the window sticker when it was scheduled to be built, let me know when the build was done, when it was in transit, etc. I'm considering ordering a Lariat before they switch over to 2021s since I really like this generation and kind of wished I went for the higher trim level to begin with.
• The truck is setup with the driver in mind. Big knobs and buttons, everything you would regularly use within reach, it's just setup ergonomically. Visibility is also awesome for such a large vehicle and there are some nice touches like turning guides on the backup camera, a button to zoom in on the hitch, the rear floor is completely flat so it's easy to use for storage, etc. I can't say that about GM trucks (the only other full size I've driven enough to comment). They have weird scroll wheels on the steering wheel, no spotter mirror on the passenger's side, lots of small buttons, a backup camera that has the quality of one from 15 years ago, really high door panels which impact visibility, the whole back seat (storage, etc.) looks like an afterthought, etc.
• Build quality on the F-150 is not quite what it would be on Toyota. From the factory I had a leaking taillight and a bad ambient temperature sensor--quick easy repairs, but still annoying to deal with right away. I also tend to get some minor interior trim noises that come and go depending on temperature. I attribute some of that to the suicide doors, but I'd like to think I'd have none of those issues on a Tundra. Other than those quirks, it has been reliable so far.
• Pricing on Fords isn't as transparent. Dealers will often sell at or below invoice (7-9% off MSRP) with a little pushing but often advertise closer to MSRP, then they'll often have thousands on the hood as factory incentives. I was around $10k off MSRP on my truck in the end. It's a little frustrating to navigate. My impression with Toyota is you'd often just get a dealer discount and rarely anything from the manufacturer, so your price is typically closer to the actual MSRP.

Bottom line, I'd buy the F-150 over a Tundra again. Come 2022, that could change. I wouldn't seriously look at a GM, RAM (they're appealing, but I've never met anyone with a reliable FCA product), or Titan.

 

Good write-up. When I bought my Platinum, I posted on Facebook that I loved it as much as my BMW. Ford contacted me and did a story on my excitement on the new aluminum body. The features on the Ford are hard to beat for price (I love the Denali but waaaaay too expensive).

My Tech/Prem Tacoma has much of what I loved of the F-150. I miss cooled seats/auto-start for hot Georgia days. Outside that, the Tacoma works for 90% of what I need. I simply need more storage - tonneau coming soon to assist. I loved the panoramic sun-roof BUT it made the cabin incredibly hot.

 

The suspension is different to allow better off road performance, softer rate and taller springs. I get 13-14ish mpg out of my 2019 2500 6.4 Laramie. My GF gets 17-18 out of her 2020 1500 Limited with the 5.7. We both have the 12” Uconnect system and neither have had any issues.

 

Personally I don’t think there’s a good looking truck made anymore, all these big plasticy front ends are going to look bad in 5-10 years


And wtf is up with the massive RAM on the new dodges?


Bring back square body tricks!

 

So I guess your telling me the customers and service department were lying about the $4000 repair bills?
Your right I think turbos are crap unless your a guy who knows what he has under the hood and knows how to maintain them. The average guy doesn't know. They are the ones with the stupid looks on their faces when they get the bill.

 

It's too bad GMC never got the memo that wheel wells are supposed to be curved

 

its not whats on the outside but the inside that counts


some ugly person said this

 

Well somebody better turn that ugly SOB inside-out then!!

 

Agree

Agree, although I kind of like the square Optimus Prime look of the 1500 Sierra. The body panels remind me of the Tundra.

 

Basically, I am looking for a truck that will last me 20 years at around 12-15k miles/year, without major, expensive maintenance issues. I love my tacoma, but need a bigger bed and more comfortable seats. My 2018 DCSB is in great condition and only has 18k miles on it. I paid 32k for it, and hopefully could get most of that back on a trade-in.

Thanks everybody for the posts. In conclusion I guess it is a crapshoot with the domestic brands and the nissan titan. Not sure what to do.

 

The current gen tundra is tried and true. It’s simple. The engine has variable valve timing which is desirable, but none of the dual injection/turbos/cylinder deactivation/start-stop complexity of a modern V8.

Get a 5.7 while you can! Soon the tundra will have all the tricks mentioned above, with a hybrid electric component too. Great if you trade it in after 5 years but not for the long haul.

With fluid changes, plugs and brakes you will get your 20 years out of a 2020 5.7.

Who knows. Once we have more electric than fossil fuel vehicles on the road gas demand will be lower and possibly prices.

 

My mom drives a Tundra with a 5.7. That thing is great. Just oil changes