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Any PC Builders Out There?

Discussion in 'Technology' started by Tacoma_SR5Pro, Nov 19, 2017.

  1. Jun 18, 2020 at 5:42 PM
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    I’m looking at either the meshify C or your 011 case to have a better thermal case since my phanteks is pretty terrible. What kind of temps do you see on normal usage like gaming?
     
  2. Jun 21, 2020 at 2:03 PM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    So, did a thing. Went against my better judgment and spent some more money lol
    I was able to RMA my 7700k with Intel thank god, it was only about a month before the warranty would run out.
    Paid $287 for the 7700k back in 2017, Intel’s claims department settled on sending me a $350 check for “market price” and my time essentially, so happy with that.
    I was pretty sure it was the 7700k faulting and Intel confirmed when they did in house testing so, guess I had a bad chip. I said fuck it and went back to my AMD roots lol
    Ryzen 7 3700x
    MSI MEG Unify Mobo (NO FUCKING RGB!!!!! I’m ecstatic!!!)
    And I decided if I’m upgrading, why not get rid of that 750ti for something newer, yeah yeah, 3k series cards are coming soon, not really gonna be a huge leap from 2k so
    MSI RTX 2070 Ventus GP edition
    Everything else I already had from the previous build works great with AMD. Swapped my lga bracket on the h115i to the am4, works great.
    The Corsair vengeance pro rgb ram works great. Yeah it’s 3200 and not the 3600mhz ryzen loves but I’ll boost it in the bios once I stabilize everything else.
    And I just stuck with my same case because it just works well and has plenty of air flow
    Before:
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    After:
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  3. Jun 21, 2020 at 2:23 PM
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    What case is that?
     
  4. Jun 21, 2020 at 2:28 PM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    An older Cooler Master HAF XB EVO, essentially a "LAN" case. I kept it because it has the fully removable mobo tray which is honestly the best feature any case could ever have.
     
  5. Jun 21, 2020 at 2:52 PM
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    PapaBear Never test how deep the water is with both feet.

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    With that said, anyone looking to buy an MSI z270 sli plus Mobo? :p
     
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    I've been looking at laptops lately. AMD may be pulling ahead in the desktop market, but it seems like they aren't there yet in the mobile market. Most of what I'm looking at for higher end with comes with i7-10510U or Ryzen 3700U. If you exclude the iGPU specs, Intel is still ahead. I've seen a spike in AMD offerings though. Maybe I should wait till the next mobile Ryzen comes out to see how they stand. I'm looking at ThinkPads, and some are about $1k discount right now.
     
  7. Jun 21, 2020 at 3:22 PM
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    If you put good fans in the bottom you'll get amazing GPU temps. I keep my overclocked 2080Ti under 60c most of the time.
     
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    I have the Unify as well. It's a fantastic board. Too bad the only reason they made it is because the Gaming Pro series was garbage for anything that drew over 100 watts. The Unify is basically the Ace without the bling including the uprated VRMs.
     
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    Um, what?

    Ryzen 4000 mobile CPUs/APUs came out a couple of months ago and the first machines are on the market right now. Give it less than a month and we will see most thin and light Ryzen versions on the shelves. They absolutely destroy Intel Ice Lake (aka 10th gen). You don't really have to wait long, just google and you'll find most of the models that are coming out.

    I doubt Lenovo will go with much AMD. They get too much of an Intel kickback to care. Most of the Chinese firms do, the ones from Taiwan are starting to switch to AMD though with Asus leading that charge.

    Lenovo always has sales. Their MSRPs are a pipedream, don't buy into that sale price. Dell does this as well.
     
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    Absolute garbage, I don’t understand who MSI even brought out those boards. As you said VRM’s were horrible, and that just made thermals go through the roof which is not what you want when OC anything. I’m trying to stabilize around 4.0 all cores right now and it seems to work well especially with my h115i. Ran CPUZ and I was getting multi and and single thread performance similar to 3900x
     
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    Yeah I sadly bought one before the reviews were out lol. I ended up passing it off to someone else who wasn't overclocking and getting myself the Unify.













































    and a 3950X because why not lol.
     
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    This is a good example. 14" thin and light gaming laptop, that you could easily pass off as a professional machine, for $1500 with an 8 core high speed Zen 2 based Ryzen 9 series processor. It runs circles around anything Intel at that price.

    More like that are coming.


    https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-r...t-white/6403816.p?skuId=6403816&intl=nosplash
     
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    I just haven't seen any 4000 series yet for what I've been looking at. That's why I'm saying I should wait. My current laptop is only a 6200U, so anything current is a big upgrade anyway.
     
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    I'm still on my 1700 (non-x). Works great for what I need. Originally bought it in 2017 when building a new desktop (ex took the old FX system I had). I was heavy into doing cpu crunching projects looking for cancer and stuff back then, so I wanted more cores. The 1700 was the most cost effective for me perf/$. I'm no longer running those projects, so now it's just a bill paying machine for the most part (never got into pc gaming other than Doom and Warcraft/Diablo back in the late 90s). Although I have two Blu-ray drives ripping a bunch of movies which I'll transfer over to my plex server once they are all ripped. Don't really see a need to upgrade any time in the near future.
     
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    I actually bought an Asus ROG laptop, and exchanged it for the ThinkPad I have now. The Asus laptop felt cheaply made, especially the screen portion.
     
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    I was reading some of the reviews were saying the 4000 series can run really hot. Not sure if just a specific model or just a general thing, but I would still be willing to go for the 4000 series over the garbage intel has been reusing and calling "new" for the last 3 years.
     
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    i don't mind if it runs a little hot, as long as it's not thermal throttling. The 4900HS in the laptop @Sterdog posted is nice. Looks to be quite a bit faster than my last desktop setup too. (4790K).
     
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    That’s what I’m after. Not to mention that case looks absolutely amazing :thumbsup:
     
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    Yeah, ROG stuff is extremely it or miss. I love my G502 but I had a buddy buy one and it was a completely different machine, side by side you could see the flaws from a bad production run. That being said wave one of the Ryzen 9 machines was gaming laptops because they wanted to go after Intel's gaming claims. Wave two is supposed to be the Ultrabooks.

    From what I've read the Ryzen 4000s run hot because they'll boost right to the thermal limit, which Intel will not. That being said 95c is pretty normal for performance mobile chips. You can set in the Bios for the CPU to run at a lower thermal wattage limit. I know Asus and MSI enabled that feature so I would expect it to become the new standard soon. AMD chips will come balls to the wall, so to speak, out of the box with the option to leave them in power sipping mode in the Bios.
     
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    The funny thing is that, even with the limits pushed, AMD now out lasts Intel for battery life. Goes to show you how much more efficient Zen 2 is per watt of heat over Intel's Coffee Lake.
     

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