Anything welding

I disagree too. As long as it’s a quality machine the welder can fine tune to get similar results across the board for the most part

The three machines at my work and personal machine all are set differently but can yield very close results

 

I guess you guys missed the sarcasm in my post

 

@81Trekker :

I am by no means criticizing your welds. They look amazing.

I do want people to know that those welds are great to achieve, but are rally more cosmetic than they need to be. (to me)

I am sure they are every bit as strong as @EatSleepTacos 's continuous weld style.

I can't appreciate your weld style as well as others here can. The extra time it takes you to make those great looking welds, I can have 2x as many of the same parts out the door. Time. Is. Money! There has to be a balance between quality and out the door. (unless you are a union welder, all bets are off in that case)

I hope you don't take offence, but I needed to make sure an opposing opinion is submitted.

Please don't stop showing those welds, I think it really piques the interest of the newer welders, but I want those guys and gals to know that those welds are not what most should try to attempt right off the bat.

I'm just trying to explain what I as a seasoned MIG welder sees when I view your welds.

Later

Kirk

 

I guess I did. I'm pretty slow sometimes. It's still great to goof off here, though.

 

If you are a seasoned mig welder then you would know-

1. on the 1/8” corner joints you can’t simply just drag the gun as the heat has to be moved around so you’re not undercutting the plates

2. It doesn’t take twice as long to produce welds like mine, infact it can be done in the same amount of time as just dragging... it all depends on the welder settings. I drag the inside ribbing quite often (Because it will never be seen) and it’s no faster

3. Most importantly doing something faster isn’t better. Let’s assume you were able to weld faster just dragging along, all you are doing is producing more quantity. In Motorsports people pay a premium for quality so even if it takes a little longer the net profit will be much greater. Other industries are obviously different

#shittalkingwelderlove

 

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@koditten
From having started in the motor sports community, that dime style of welding is what the consumer has begun to expect in Offroad parts (for the most part). Without it, customers often times take their business elsewhere.

For large scale manufacturing I could totally see the time and wire savings over a year to add up extremely quick. Once I got in the habit of welding that way I kinda just always did it on every welding application.

I just like to see everything people build in here and the useful tips/ideas people share regardless of how the weld looks

 

You wont pass a weld test by “stacking dimes” with a mig.

 

Neither will the rest of the entire Motorsports industry for that matter but the funny thing is I’ve never seen a stack of dimes fail in the real world with proper penetration. I’ve done a handful of cages with stacked dimes that had zero issues with 100mph+ rollovers in 6k lbs trucks

 

Lets not argue about passing welding tests. There are very few in this thread that are required to pass welding test. And if we are it won't take us long to learn what the inspector wants.

I do agree that the motor sports industry likes that style and I do to. It's right up there in front were the owners can see it every time they enter/exit a car/bike/or whatever. And in that instance, you are usually getting paid to perform that style, so the time matter really has no dog in the hunt. And yes, I can understand using your style for all welding. Consistency does count. You have done it so much, you know how long the project will take and you will build that into your quote.

Great conversation.

 

This is a good post. People now have a context in how to classify the welding style. All your points are spot on and really can't be argued.

We are expressing the merits and negatives to different styles of welding. I can't see how this is a bad thing.

 

Well this looks like a fun project!

 

Do you mean put the gusset IN the tube? Like you don’t even see it after the fact?

 

That was my take on it. Some or a lot of grinding and it would great 'fake tube'.

 

Yes in the tube so you don’t see it and then weld the top and bottom. When it’s done it will just look like a bent tube that has beads laid on top and bottom

 

Good post. I agree that a decade ago I saw folks doing some fancy MIG work and personally I loved it. I've done a few dozen cages also and customers do like a pretty cage, but today, CM is replacing mild steel at a good pace..lol.
Another point. The first thing a NHRA/SFI inspector does on a cage inspection is open the door of the car or truck. That door bar weld better look good or the shit will roll down hill from there....LMMFAO.
Zim

 

I really hope this will hold in a roll over

 

What's the OD of the gusset vs the main tube?

 

1.125 with 1.775

 

@81Trekker what motion are you using on those, cursive e’s? Pushing or pulling?