Don't like being "strip searched" or "groped?"

That's fair. They are probably overkill.

My major point of contention is that they aren't an invasion of privacy because of the fact that a person chooses to fly. But these scanners are most likely an unnecessary expense.

As for the airline business -- that's where the major policy changes can be made. If these scanners truly affect airline business, then the airlines will lobby for changes to the regulations. This is where America is awesome. If you don't like something, you can choose not to fund it (e.g. -- air travel). When enough people stop paying for certain things, changes are made to bring customers back.

 

I like how you're trying to go against my point while making it for me.

Since no singular action will stop all future attacks, and clearly we've already invested plenty of cash into airline security, and clearly it has been working, why invade our privacy further and spend more money in airline travel?

How about we look at the other avenues of attack, instead, as well as increase our ability to respond in the event of a successful attack?

Instead, we're losing our privacy hammering at a mostly-solved problem for no reason. Further expensive technological improvements in airline security are stupid because we've already made plane-related attacks obnoxious enough that the terrorists are clearly looking elsewhere.

 

You are correct. We are reactive- and at the same time working to the best that anyone can expect to prevent further incidents (like the recent Yemeni package intercept).
I do agree that it's stupid to drive versus fly...but I have no problems with the way the current system works (as far as getting to a plane...the actual flight is a different thing all together) so I fly regularly. That is my choice...Much like it's your choice to not drive.

 

Thank you. I do raise a little contention with the idea that you don't have to fly, because, there isn't a real alternative to travel to Europe or cross-country. If this were something a specific airline implemented or we had low-orbit space travel (i'm being serious) and I had other real options to get to Italy or New York, I'd agree that I am making a choice to fly.

And I suspect there will be exactly the backlash you describe, as airlines, AFAIK, have indeed been seeing profits drop as flying has gotten more cumbersome.

Anyway, good talk guys, glad we could keep it civil. I need to do work. At my job.

 

but the problem is not solved. The processes, be they technological or procedural, must stay one step (at least) ahead of those trying to circumvent them. If we rest on our security laurels because they worked yesterday, then by tomorrow, someone will figure out a way to work around them.

Terrorists are looking elsewhere because it is easy to do so. Say that we ignore security at airports and focus on trains, it will only be a matter of a short time before they start attacking planes again.

 

This is decidedly untrue.

 

Another thing to look at is that some of you are saying that your right to privacy supercedes someones right to life. You don't want a hand on your balls, so joe terrorist puts a bomb there and has denied many people the right to life. If you want to think of it as a consistutional right thing.

 

Have to jump in. The "if you've got nothing to hide" line of logic is complete, utter, disgusting BS. I don't have to have anything to hide to not want what is effectively nude images of myself being taken or to have my genitals groped by some minimum wage stranger. No, thank you.

 

^^^Sounds like somebody is feeling a little inadequate^^^

 

Actually, it's the reverse. You know how you're supposed to die if you were to look directly into the face of God?

My enormous, awesome dong is sorta like that, and I'm looking out for the safety of all TSA employees.

 

+1 for having a good sense of humor!

 

Well played, sir.

 

What ever it takes I have nothing to hide

 

OR we can just hurry up and find Osama?

 

I'm gonna take some boner pills right before I get on my next flight

 

I miss George.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq8pd0fDNaA&feature=related

 

I wonder if there are any regulations against requesting that the search be performed in public?