Our Lady of the Highway

I would love a fucking explanation on the reverse gear and why they thought going 50km an hour in reverse is a fantastic idea.

My best guess is the gear storage?
My other trucks were the same though. Have to use 4lo or 2wd mod, on boat launches or backing up a trailer etc. Actually i got all the parts for the 2wd low mod, just need to install.

 

Had mine in forma year now...ima fan

 

Its incase you fuck your self, or get stuck on a narrow/single-lane/or precarious trail and need to get "a run up" to back out and through some obstacle, mud or otherwise.
The rear end of a truck has less loading in reverse, and will need all the speed it can get to out of such a situation.

 

For backing trailers up a incline, the 2LM is AMAZING

 

Perhaps they should have focused on traction and torque and not speed?

 

You're not doing the toyota engineers any favours with that argument

 

its reality. Its kind of like the "clutch-cancel" device or the "crawl-control". They arm the driver with a wide array of tools to get themselves into and out of predicaments.

 

Ughh, ok

 

its far easier and far less expensive to "gear for speed" in reverse than it is to redesign the entire platform for "more power and torque duhh"

 

So you just admitted that Toyota cut corners and hampered performance for cost and ease of manufacturing...

Hence why there are AFTERMARKET manufacturers that R&D products to fix/address and change these shortcomings.

Therefore, your constant "ToYoTa iZ PuRfEcT" preaching is flawed.

 

Are you an adult? Do you understand how actual reality works?
Toyota did the opposite of "cutting" corners and devised an ingenious solution to the limitations of the motor's platform.
The engineers have absolutely armed TRD Toyota's with an arsenal of Off-Road abilities. They gave you:
-Locking Diffs
-4wd lo and hi.
-manual transmission with the bigger rear end
-clutch cancel
-crawl control (AT)
-recovery points
-an unusually 'fast' reverse gear
under the assumption that the Target audience would know how to leverage at least ONE of those skills, and hopefully in new and exciting combinations of them, to get them out of whatever situation they could possibly come up with. The fact that they have achieved one of these goals simply by gearing reverse 'fast' is commendable resource usage and performance.

 

My use case is backing a utility trailer via turning up a 15 degree incline commonly known as a driveway...and not wanting to smell a burning clutch.

None of your cited offerings above remediate that use case.

 

"I'm burning up the clutch and this is Toyota's fault for not creating some kind of nanny solution for me harumph"
and then you people bitch and moan when the truck is "gutless" "soft" "quiet" "not fun" "too much computer" "too many nanny devices".
but hey maybe by 2022my, they will have some kind of computer gimmick to back your truck up a hill for you, who knows.

It sounds like you bought the wrong truck for the applications you actually find your self in doesnt it?

 

Lol, love the responses. It really illustrates the reason why ol kitty got all the attention today.

We all have known "that guy" at one time or another that just has to keep pushing flawed arguments to be "right", even when it's obvious to everyone in the room that he's sucking wind and waaay out over his skis.
But hey, it's cheap entertainment, right?

 

You're quoting me, and quoting a sentence that i didnt forward as an arguement, then made 2 really wild assumptions to further your case...

I asked about a use case, and what your opinion was around why the toyota engineers went the route they did...you replied with a nice list of fucntionality that was irrelevant to my use case.

Then i became a you people bitch apparently...

We've not crossed paths before...im sensing why now

 

LOL only in clown world could a guy with 6500+ posts unironically call someone with ~300 posts a "wind bag" with a straight face.
Imagine taking advice from a literal, actual KAREN of Toyota's:
How many "managers" have you demanded to speak with LOL?
How many "tech and engineers" have you demanded to speak with?
can you show me on the doll where the engineer hurt you?
It was probably pretty obvious to them the source of the mysterious "Whining" in the truck, and it wasn't a design flaw.

 

Wheels not black enough.

 

This was literally you:

If the clutch is being burned up, its because of the driver, its really that easy.
What kind of entitlement do you suffer from that makes you think that the the truck you bought should have absolutely every conceivable advantage, with zero disadvantages, full stop or else the engineers have failed and Toyota is to blame?

The truck you bought was clearly and obviously marketed and outfitted SPECIFICALLY as a sort of "specialized" Off-Road enthusiast model equipped with Off-Road and 'Sport' related features like:
-Locking Diffs
-4wd lo and hi.
-manual transmission with the bigger rear end
-clutch cancel
-crawl control (AT)
-recovery points
-an unusually 'fast' reverse gear

Then you presented your special-snowflake scenario where the Truck sacrificed towing and utility capabilities to instead specialize in Off-Road and "sport/race" qualities.
Further you passed driver or operator failings (burning the clutch up) off onto the Engineers, because you picked an incorrect or inadequate truck for the needs you actually have, and instead purchased for theoretical ones it turns out you dont have.
If towing is a frequent need for you, why did you buy a Toyota Tacoma? it makes no sense?

At no point in this models history has towing ever been advertised as a primary use.
Towing has always been a tertiary role of this truck and really of the segment.
How are you surprised that a mid-size truck is encountering "towing problems"?
Whos to blame for your misunderstanding the entire segments intent?

 

I dont, but this (the bold) is literally what you said at the beginning of your rantings...that the engineers at toyota are infallible, they thought of everything. Now you are argueing counter to your original arguement.

You keep inventing arguements people have not made? I never suggesting towing was an issue. Again, you quoted "towing issues", something i never said.

I think im done with you

 

Tacos of the Corn. Love it!