Magnuson supercharger releasing soon

Show me the receipts. Show me where a stock 2GR-FKS mated with a ECT 6sp auto and the same gear ratios/final drive has reliably put down 500hp for years. And with how specific im being it literally means you can only show examples of a 2016+ tacoma auto doing it. The "same engine" in other cars are not always identical. Take fords 2.3 for example. Not only is it mounted differently in several different cars and paired with a variety of drivetrain options, it is internally different as well, there are even minor differences in the block itself and differences in the cams, head, intake and valve train. I owned a FoRS, so I know the 2.3 in the ranger and the 2.3 in the mustang arent the same damn thing part for part. All making wildly different HP/TQ ratings depending what its in. I could bring up thousands of examples like this with every manufacture going back years. So slapping a TT on my taco as it sits may have wildly different reliability results than slapping iy on a camery or a lexus that has the "same***" engine.

 

I would think that clutch or CV joints would be the weakest link, And if you can install this kit yourself, then the other two shouldn't be hard to maintain yourself.

 

I don't see it having much of a difference in reliability or longevity. They are good engines and built stronger than most think. Of course if you slap OV tunes 600 hp kit your going to have issues at one point or another. But anything under 400? Highly doubt it.

 

I agree, but that wasnt really my point. You cant compare results from something kinda similar, when I see an example of a 16+ auto taco doing it and proving me wrong I will whole heartedly agree as that is tit for tat evidence. But I couldnt give 2 shits if a 2018 camery SE, or a Lexus RX 350 with the "same***" engine has done it before. Too many other variables are different for that to be viable evidence.

 

I would expect something similar to the 2nd gens

Around 5 psi stock if I remember correctly

aftermarket pully put you around 8

 

I agree they are different engines from the midpoint up different gears tuning etc

I think if ran in it’s stock form you won’t see any issues longevity wise. At 500 hp or near and up I could definitely see issues

 

What's different engine wise from the 2gr-fks in the taco vs the TT Lexus? Other than turbos obviously

 

Since we're all talking about boost, anyone have photos of the crank and rods? Specs of said crank and rods? How wide are the bearings and strength of supporting crank journals? I'd imagine stock rods not liking boost above +10psi for long if they're just basic cast rods.

 

I would like to see the Mag SC, and the TT from OVtune be in the low 400s hp/tq to the wheels as personally after years of building and tuning cars I wouldnt go past that with this truck. They are very complex engines with too many eco friendly things that are anything BUT friendly to tuning and making big power reliably. The fqct it is atkinson+otto, and dual injected with VVT is already a HUGE pain in the ass. The bottom end can probably take 500, as most modern manufactured engines can, I dont think the block is the weakpoint here, neither are the cams, crank or pistons, its just got a lot of very complicated things that can fail. This isnt your dads carburated pushrod V8. Personally I think that 6sp auto will be the failure point. Manual guys got the option to put a big ass aftermarket clutch in, but its not like anyone is making performance forged gears, or tq converters for that auto. The rear end seems beefy enough as long as you dont run giant tall/wide mud tires everywhere, the CV axels, and the driveshaft is plenty too. They are way bigger than what my RS had and that was making 475 at all 4 wheels.

 

I cant verify this YET as I need to do some digging, but I can bet money it runs forged pistons, rods and crank, definitelly has a different intake and poasibly heads "not nessicary" and if im not mistaken that one doesnt use atkinson cycle, I could be wrong about that. Especially in the sportier trims, not the base 295 hp one. A lot of cars ditch variable valve timing stuff when they go Fi. For example a lot of guys in the 370 community rip that piece of shit VVEL valve train off and run 350z heads when they go TT as it is counter productive to making more power. Toyota are smart about it, they know Fi comes with reliability issues so they dont just slap a bigger intake manifold on it and say it makes more power. But Stock factory turbo cars run very low boost anyway, with some having 30 second WOT "boost modes" that temporarily increase pressure. My RS did that until I tuned it and put a manual wasgete gate and boost controller, but it was an exception that engine runs over 18 psi from factory.

 

From what I vaguely remember the taco has a forged bottom end and simulated Atkinson via valve timing.

 

And it's a heartbeat blower.

Bastards. I love that style. You turd gen guys get all the good stuff. That's not to say I dislike my roots, however.

 

I dont remember hearing the taco engine having forged internals, but your probably right on HOW it switches. As it has 2 cams per head, or independant intake and exhaust valve control. All atkinson does is keep the intake open during the compression stroke of the piston, reducing compression, and reducing operating resistance to save fuel. This is VERY counterproductive when looking to make an engine that is powerful and ready for snappy responsive action for agressive driving. The VVEL system was very similar, and while tuning it the computer would actually try to advance or retard the timing and increase/decrease valve duration to MAINTAIN good fuel economy, effectively fighting the tuner.

 

Point is, it's all in the tune and easily disabled. Atkinson has been disabled in certain maps of ovtune already.

 

I had to closely look at the date on this thread; is this thread a year old from 2019? No?, I guess it's 2020, still no actual supercharger? Yawn. Somebody wake me up if they actually start selling a supercharger.

 

Yeah well..... OVtune is doing the same thing. They even had the balls to put the product up on their site and put sold out. Sold out to what, the test truck?

 

wow, that's pretty lame

 

Why would anyone would want that many HP in a Tacoma? I mean you can barely keep that rear end stable with factory power levels. What's gonna happen when you add 30% more power, endless burnout?

 

I have the OVT tune on my 17', it's a slight improvement. But you've got to give OVT credit; they're the only ones that have managed to pull any power at all out of the 3rd gen V6, everyone else is just talk. I like my 17', but the lack of power will probably make me switch to something else.

 

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