Keystone State Thread

It is to bad gelding is not an option!! How many other buns were left in the oven and he skipped??

 

Goes without saying doing something like would tend to put one in the Major Ass Hole category.

 

Welcome!

If I were to buy a Tacoma over 10 years old again... I'd ONLY look here on the Tacomaworld site if I would ever consider something more than 2 hours drive away. I bought my 2003 truck in 2016 at a mom&pop dealer near Syracuse. Looked good on the web/photos and I bargained them down over a grand before going to look at it. I live near Reading and the drive was 3.5hrs up there. At that point I was so emotionally committed and had the cash in hand that I just said yes even though if it were locally seen I'd have passed up on it due to rust underneath (not the frame, but the body itself underneath... frame recalls, which it had done, still don't fix rust on the body). Don't get me wrong, I love my truck, but I've put way more actual blood, sweat, and almost tears (come on, I'm a man) into this just to ditch it now, but I should have walked away from the start.

BUY LOCAL and buy in the same state is my first preference. I got PULLED OVER on the way home the day I got the truck, AFTER I went and got my temporary tags... because the statey didn't like the look of the NY inspection sticker in the front and the PA temporary in the back window. A-hole, complete A-hole... my (then 5yr old) daughter was crying in the back seat scared at the commotion (when all she was hoping for was to have fun seeing daddy's new truck) and the flipping A-hole ticketed me instead of some warning... because somehow I should have had PA inspection stickers on it the day I drove it home from NY? I wasn't speeding or doing anything wrong but the jerk decided to spin his vehicle around on the back country road to come after me. Give me a break and go tend to somebody doing something actually dangerous to other people, or give the ticket to the dealership because how am I supposed to know I wasn't doing something correct in bringing the vehicle across state lines? Anyhoo... buy local if you can. If you buy from out of state, buy from somewhere at least 8-10 hours south of here where they don't use road salt, or out in like Arizona where rust doesn't exist. Goodness but I've been buying used Tacomaworld parts from Colorado that are original with no rust on them, must be nice.

So, yes... buy from Tacomaworld people because they love their vehicles and care for them and you'd hopefully be less likely to be swindled? And make sure if you buy out of state that it CAN pass PA inspection before you bring it over (that's a whole other story after my ticket when the next day I went to get an inspection and it couldn't pass without another $600 of my own cash with me doing all my own labor to fix up all the failed inspection parameters).

 

I think I know that trooper !! The one that came when my Truck got hit was decent

Just about any time I bought a used Toyota something is always neglected that needs brought up to speed.

An easy $500.00 to $1000.00 in parts if your paying labor an older truck is going to get expensive .

 

You should see some of the rendering loads we send out..

 

I have to second on buying from Texas. My buddy was impressed with my 05’ w/213K onit and wanted one. I convinced to go second gen, not third. There is a decent selection down there w/o rust, and they are made there. I think he purchased a 2010, it had80K onit and in great shape.

 

I just googled and read about this. So the article I read was a 2012 article. You're saying this is the guy? Well, even if he's a jerk... let's just hope he does well at this job and pays his child support.

 

1000% this is the guy. Hes seems to be doing good now.

 

Whats up all,
Anyone in southampton area, "bucks county" know of a good place for me to get a wheel alignment?
Just had it done at my local shop and peeps here told me its horrible.
Thx

 

@HomerTaco or @loosnut they are in that area. I took mine to United in Feasterville on street rd. I wasn't happy with them the customer service wasn't great.

 

Thx man. Figures I'm 10 min from feasterville

 

I use A-Team Auto in Langhorne - Jim's a good guy and aligns my truck to my specs every time.

 

Thank you

 

@loosnut has a "guy" for everything.

 

@loosnut just is the guy! Top Tacoma guy for sure!

 

Thanks for the help men. Sent him a message

 

Thanks! I have a soft spot for 2nd gen 4Runners and have owned a few so I'm all too familiar with rust lol. You run into any issues with PA inspections for the out of state vehicles? Trying to get an idea of what to look/look out for if I would purchase out of state.

 

Thanks! I was looking at one in VA awhile back and my biggest concern was driving it home through MD and PA. Troopers patrol my stretch of 81 pretty heavily. Any suggestions on what I should look to make sure it passes inspections? I know to ask about emission testing requirements and that's about it.

 

I saw this the other day and wanted to respond to it coming from a Tundra a couple years ago. I was applying to companies where my commute could triple in distance and was concerned about the MPG and tire costs compared to a smaller truck. If I would have know I would end up in a reliable carpool I can't say I would have made the change to the Taco. I miss that truck. The Taco has more features but the Tundra was my first truck and I traded into the same dealer I bought it from and it sold in less than a week. I still see it from time to time but its not cared for like it was with me.

I owned the truck for 37 months, 37,000 miles. I'm trying to think of how to organize this in a way that is helpful and thorough.

Things that are really similar:

• Size: not as much of a change as you think. The TRD OR and Baja Tacos are wider than SRs, etc. because of the flares. My DCLB Taco is 5" narrower and 3" shorter than my DC 6.5' bed Tundra was. I parked this truck 3 nights a week in parking garages around Blvd of the Allies for school, biggest dimensional difference is height.
• Turning radius: You guys with DCSB Tacos are blessed with a small turning radius, DCLB Tacos and standard WB Tundras have the same 44' turning radius. I believe it is the tightest turning half ton of similar wheelbase out there cause my GM/Ford buddies always made comments in parking lots of how I could wedge this truck into parking spots.
• Interior: Toyota interior and quality, not much difference other than size.
• Maintenance costs for oil changes and brakes and everything are pretty close. I made a projected fuel/maintenance spreadsheet (engineers can't do anything without excel organizing data ) and if I kept the Tundra it'd cost me about $75 a month more than the Taco to operate.

Things that are different:

• Torque for days. 400 ft-lbs + 4.30 diff = no downshift passing and rolling on the throttle too quick in dry conditions resulted in tire spin with 285s. I'vs ripped a small patch with 500lbs in the bed pulling out in dry summer conditions .
• Sound. I had a AFE single outlet catback and it dropped my MPGs by about .75 just because of overpasses and tunnels. Squirrel Hill Tunnel leaving school at 10pm was awesome.
• The DC Tundra has way more rear leg room than a DC Taco. My brother in law is 6'3" and spent about 4 hours back there in a single day and didn't complain. Multiple trips with adults in the back to the beach 6+ hours and not really any complaints. The rear seats fold better for a lot more room for things, if you don't have the under seat box. I didn't have the box and had enough space to stack bins or lay the dog beds on the floor. I miss that about the Tundra. I think a crewmax is a waste of space. The second row in a truck doesn't need more leg room than the front, you loose bed space, and payload cause the crewmax is heavier. My DC could easily fit 3 adults in the back for the very few times most people will actually need to put 3 adults in the backseat of a pickup. 3 kids, would need a crewmax to keep everybody calm, two kids and a dog, DC all day. DC Tundra backseat is pretty similar space wise as a 4runner but with a couple more inches of width on the bench.
• I had a 6 passenger, my brother had a 2015 with the center console. I wish you could get a center console with a column shifter. Personal preference, but that console shifter takes up 2 cup holders and a cubby all day everyday. The center console in the Tundra is amazing. There is a ton of storage in the Tundra.
• Tires. I run LT265/75R16s on the Tacoma which could be had for $200 a tire all day everyday for an AT from several brands. I had LT285/70R17s on Rock Warrior Forged TRD wheels and they are about $100 a tire more.
• Ride is a bit harsher comparing stock to stock. If I still had it I prob would have been on 5100s or 6112/5160s by now. You get that heavier/stiffer leaf pack jitters over bumps if the truck is empty.
• Payload/Towing. Tundras are chonky, but that also gave me 500+ lbs more payload and 3500lbs more towing capacity. It takes about 2500lbs to get a Tundra within a half inch of the bump stops. If Tundras have one highlighting performance feature, it is towing. The drivetrain/gear ratios are setup perfect for towing. You gotta be near a Taco's max tow rating to start realizing there's a dump or utility trailer back there, can't comment for travel trailer or cargo trailer.
• Bed size. 6.5' Tundra to 6' Tacoma is a huge difference in space. The Tacoma is smaller but I like the composite bed shell better than having a steel bed for a list of reasons. I did a spray in liner and a bed mat, it was fine but the ease of the composite Taco bed and storage cubbies is great.
• Thirsty. Gotta pay to play. I tend to get a little better than rated MPG on my trucks. I got 14.5 reliably with my commute to school/work. Got 19.5 round trip to OCMD with the tires at 40psi, tonneau, 500lbs of bullsh*t and three adults. Can't say I'd get much better in the Taco cause of how this third gen hates 70mph. The tundra gets to 5th/6th gear and unless I was passing uphill at highway speed it usually didn't downshift to 4th.
• No lockers, LSD is okay.

Tundras are more of a bigger hammer type of approach than the Tacoma. The trucks capabilities aren't much different, its just a stronger big brother scenario. I haven't towed anything over 3000lbs with the Taco and any overloading of payload has been carefully risk assessed, but those times the Tundra would have been over payload too. I started looking at Tundras again when we had our daughter in the fall but keep telling myself to look the other way and enjoy the Taco. I went through a month this past winter that I was really beating myself up for not holding onto the Tundra but like I said I didn't know I was going to get in a comfortable carpool, I took a significant pay cut to get into a better company, and my commute went from 10 miles to 27 each way. The first summer at my new job I was averaging nearly 2000 miles a month before starting to carpool. The Tundra fuel costs would have been more than the payment.

It sounds like you don't drive as much as I do. I got 52k on my Tacoma since April 2017. I've cut my miles in half the last year in the carpool.

This is all opinion. Both trucks have served/searing me well. Both are everything I needed at the time I bought them. If I owned both at the same time I would have to flip a coin to see which one to take on 330 days a year. The other 35 days I wish I had the hauling/towing abilities of the Tundra. That's just my needs though. The Taco gets it done, but the Tundra just "works" better. If I had to guess which truck would give me less problems over 300k miles, I would have to pick the Tundra.

I would prob try to find a used one instead of new. Sorry, the TSS and whatnot sounds like a longevity nightmare. There are multiple threads that pop up with a google search for swapping the 38 gallon tank into older Tundras with all OEM parts and the computer self learns "miles to empty" after a couple fill ups. I nearly gave up the Taco for a 2013 MGM Rock Warrior DC a few months back. The new ones have about 200lbs less payload than the slightly older trucks cause the TSS computers/sensors and the extra 12 gallons of fuel all take away from payload. If I was doing long distance towing I would do the 38 gal tank swap on a pre-TSS truck.

 

I never had any major Issues because the vehicle came from out of state.

I would want the emission system working like it should in any case

Any vehicle can have unknown problems.

One shop said I needed Steering Rack bushings looking for work to do.

I washed it with the pressure washer they checked things out again it was fine.

It might be possible to get PA temp tags to bring the vehicle Home Time flies it has been years since I bought anything new.

Know anyone you can borrow a Dealer Plate??