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LED turn signal problem

Discussion in '1st Gen. Tacomas (1995-2004)' started by AWES0ME1, Jul 19, 2020.

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  1. Jul 26, 2020 at 4:51 PM
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    Have you flipped the front LEDs the other way round in their sockets? Unlike light bulbs, LEDs are polarized.
     
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  3. Jul 26, 2020 at 4:57 PM
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    Did and no difference
     
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  4. Jul 26, 2020 at 5:03 PM
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  5. Jul 26, 2020 at 5:14 PM
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    Yes, leds on all four corners. I can adjust the speed, but only did it once. Do note that with LEDs, if one is out, you will see no difference in the flash rate.
     
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  6. Jul 26, 2020 at 5:22 PM
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    Ok, cool,
    I did go and remove the LEDs from the rear and put Incandescent lightbulbs in but still made no difference with no LEDS Working to the front.

    If I put incandescent all 4 corners it all works tho
     
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  7. Jul 30, 2020 at 7:49 PM
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    Try a different flasher

    What bulbs are you using?
     
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  8. Jul 30, 2020 at 9:23 PM
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    I bought sylvania leds and had the LED flasher EP35
     
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  9. Jul 30, 2020 at 10:16 PM
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    Definitely purchase yourself a .02 - 20 Amp flasher, I'm certain this is your problem. If not check back and I'll be glad to help you in more detail, hopefully we can help!
     
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  10. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:33 AM
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    Ok cool,

    I did order the adjustable flasher and two
    Pre loaded resistor LED blubs

    Might work on that next week because I have to pull the dash apart to get too that flasher, so will try the loaded LEDS 1st
     
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  11. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:36 AM
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    I wonder if the LED bulbs just got more efficient drawing less current as even the older LED flashers seem to no longer work.

    I could have my lights 10 plus years
     
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  12. Jul 31, 2020 at 6:40 AM
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    The ones I bought are .5 watts each
    The incandescent are 5 watts each
     
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  13. Jul 31, 2020 at 2:56 PM
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    I just spotted that topic. So it is concluded that EP-35 doesn't work with theses LED because it is not sensitive enough. And that gets me wonder if you are using wrong LED. All guys on on-line stores clam their products to be "blinding bright" while the truth is, often they are not bright enough to meet the legal requirements.

    A LED bulb suitable for blinker must deliver at least 250-300 lumens. If you calculate it to LED the LED bulb must put into all LED chips in a bulb at least 3W - meaning including the driver and all other elements a LED bulb should take about 5W or more to be suitable for turn signal. That is 0.4A per bulb. EP-35 can easily work loaded at 0.8A. If your LED bulb draws less amps, it is not bright enough to be used as a tun signal (or stop light).

    On the other hand there is no suitable LED bulb (turn signal size) that gives more light (takes more than 5-7W) - it will simple overheat and either burn built in driver will go into "limp mode" (flashing or dimming LEDs).

    So if EP-35 does not work with a pair of LED bulbs in turn signal tamps it simply means, get different, more powerful bulbs.
     
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    I ordered the lasfit LEDS that come with a resistor in them,

    Well they shorted out the blinker and the emergency flasher.

    Both fuses popped, 10 and 15 amp,
    Blinker fuse and the flasher fuse( Horn fuse)
     
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  16. Aug 4, 2020 at 1:18 AM
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    Bad bulbs !! or the flasher is bad ??

    Poor connection causing a Arc ??

    since it was both fuses that opened I bet the flasher is shorted
     
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  17. Aug 4, 2020 at 5:48 AM
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    Well I put the resistor type lasfit LEDS in the front and the blinker fuse and flasher
    fuse both popped. So I guess there’s to much of a resistance and the other LEDS nothing happened.
    Guess I will just stay with the setup the way I had it,
    4 incandescent up front with the turn signal mod and LEDs in the rear.
     
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    I highly recommend you getting the non resistor type bulbs and also get yourself a CF14 .02-20amp flasher, should work perfectly.
     
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    Did the turn signal bulbs light up momentarily or simply blow the fuses? What bulbs did you buy specifically?
     
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    They blew right away, no flash,
    Lasfit LED.
    These did not work

    Screenshot_20200804-131439_Gallery.jpg
    Screenshot_20200804-131448_Gallery.jpg
     
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