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Replace Rough Country spacers with coilovers on a 6 in lift

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by NickJacq23, Nov 15, 2018.

  1. Nov 16, 2018 at 4:26 PM
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    do you mean replace the stock front with stock length fox coilovers(or any other brand) then add a spacer
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    do you mean putting a 6 inch longer coilover then adding a spacer on top of that?
     
  2. Nov 16, 2018 at 4:38 PM
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    Not much to add here, but your truck looks badass man. I need a 6"!
     
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  3. Nov 16, 2018 at 6:04 PM
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    Yeah so I plan on removing the 4 in spacer and putting a 6 in coilover to keep the six inch lift then maybe add a 3 in spacer on top of that to total 9 inches if possible
     
  4. Nov 16, 2018 at 6:59 PM
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    Not with a RC lift. the DB only gives you about 4.5 inches of lift. Likewise, a BDS DB will give you 6 inches of lift I believe.
    With the shorter DB from RC a 4 inch lift will have your LCAs flat(like stock) but with 2 more inches your LCAs will be tilted down the same as if you put a 2 inch lift on a stock truck
    by comparison, if you se the BDS DB, because it's a taller DB with 6 inches of lift your LCAs will be flat across so adding a spacer will put you 2 more inches up and with tilted LCAs.
    Make sense?
    I'd explain it in more depth but running out the door for work now
     
  5. Nov 17, 2018 at 5:03 AM
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    Damn yeah you are making total sense. That’s actually really crazy, it didn’t seem right that the 6 in lift only had 4.5 in spacers lol that’s kind of weird they would advertise that... maybe I’ll jusy have to go get a proper DB lift instead of worrying about coilovers right now
     
  6. Nov 17, 2018 at 2:39 PM
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    *correction, I was wrong, I just measured my RC DB and it's a 3.5 inch drop but the center section I believe is 4 inches lower than stock*
    I don't know if I'm saying it wrong or just not clearly. The 6 inch lift from RC or Fabtech or BDS or whoever will be 6 inches of lift even though the spacer they give you doesn't measure out to 6 inches of spacer. It's cause the spacers are mounted inboard of the wheels that it gives it an extra bit of leverage on the middle of the LCA to make 6 inches at the wheel. Generally, with any Taco, a 1/2 inch spacer equals 1 inch lift at the wheel. 1.5 inch spacer gives almost 3 inches at the wheel. 2 inches=4 at the wheel. 4.5= 6 inches at the wheel. That's all rough numbers but generally about accurate.
    now, at the diff it's a different thing altogether. The DB will lower the diff down a certain amount also. On the RC lift the drop bracket only drops it about 3.5 inches. I think the others all drop the center diff down 4.5 or 5 inches. Not absolutely positive on that but I know that the RC is less than the others.
    so now if the DB drops the center 4 inches and the spacer at the wheel equals 4 inches then your LCAs will be almost flat all the way across. If the spacer is 6 inches at the wheel then the LCAs will be tilted down from where it bolts to the chassis to the tire. It's generally accepted that you can lift a TAco 2-3 inches before the angle of the LCA and UCA is too much that you get bind in the CV joints and upper balljoint. So with a RC DB and 6 inch spacer at the wheel you are basically maxed out on how high you can go.
    now, with the other brand DB they seem to drop the center section down further so (this part is all hypothetical since I don't have any other DB from other brands available to measure although i do know that the others drop it down further, just not sure exactly how much more) if Fabtech or BDS drops the center section down the full 6 inches and they give you a 6 inch spacer measured at the wheel then your LCAs will be flat across at the full 6 inches of lift and if you'd like to at that point you could add a small spacer or crank up the coilovers a little to gain another 2 inches and still have both the LCAs and UCAs within decent angles to keep things from causing too much wear and tear. I have a friend with the Procomp DB lift and he has spacers on top of the 6 inch spacers for the wheels so he is at about 7.5 inches of lift and his LCAs are the same angle as mine and I'm running the RC DB with about 5 inches of lift at the wheels so even though we both have DBs and close to the same LCA angle and both of us are running "6 inch lifts" his truck is almost 3 inches taller than mine.
    It's really a complicated thing to explain cause not all the 6 inch lift kits are built the same.
    If size is your goal then the RC is the worst option. The other DBs will give you a little more height. If the tallest is your goal though, look into Bulletproof, they have a 12 inch lift for Tacomas
     
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  7. Nov 17, 2018 at 3:38 PM
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    Bro shoutout for the information, way more than I have found online. May have to just switch out DB lifts and go from there... and no I’ve seen the bulletproof that’s a little much lmao I want maybe about 8-9 inches to clear 37’s fully
     
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    Just start chopping. Lol. There’s a guy named Big Mike that is running 40s without a DB. He has a long travel setup but still, that only nets a 3 inch lift I believe. Numerous guys running 35s with a3 inch lift in here so 37s are very possible on 6 inches with chopping. Keep in mind, the more you lift the more things get pushed to their limits and wear and tear will be greatly increased. Also remember that this forum has a very hearty “overland” group of people that HATE drop bracket lifts and they will talk shit to you till you believe their Bilstein 5100s godz lol. You’ll get very little love with a DB lift which is part of the reason it’s hard to find info about them sometimes. Sooooo
    If you don’t wanna chop then ya, more lift is in order but the CMC is a must no matter what I think.
     
  9. Nov 17, 2018 at 5:05 PM
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    37's for now, i seen a dude running 40's on 5.29 and said it is perfect for him, talked to a few other dudes running 4.88's with overlanding gear and armor saying it suites them so I think they should work. I still want the option to go down to 35's
     
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    Bro I've seen the hate its kind of funny lol I'm not too worried about what folks got to say. I think I know who you're talking about. I've already trimmed some plastic and did a slight cmc. I only run when im in reverse, just enough to be annoying. I might have to go the route your buddy did and get a "higher" 6 in lift.
     
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    Btw, 5.29s with 35s would be perfect. I have 4.88s with 35s and it’s great but if 5.29s were available when I did the gear swap then it would’ve been 5.29s all the way.
    Go with the 5.29s for 35s or higher.
     
  12. Nov 18, 2018 at 6:29 AM
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    @inksin yeah I just did a little research, people are even running 5.29’s with 35’s and seem to love it... may have to give up ECGS a call
     
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    Has anyone put these Fox coilovers on a RC 6” lift yet? Thoughts if so?

     
  14. Jul 23, 2019 at 8:01 AM
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    Hey guys quick update! I ended up going with full length 2.5 adjustable king coilovers in the front and king shocks in the rear. A new leaf pack is next F6BCF997-108A-4D0F-AF8A-DA1EC55DB124.jpgEF0B18A9-E086-456A-8828-9E4A2F407976.jpg
     
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    Do you have a link for the kings you went with? I've been trying to find the same answers and this is the first place I have found that has helpful info. I'm wanting to go with kings.
    Also, what is your offset on your wheels?

    F77D8A1D-14A9-49F5-9CA1-FE133CA0CAA3.jpg
     
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    Hi, Did the ride improve with the coilovers vs the spacer?
     
  17. Aug 3, 2020 at 6:30 PM
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    Aloha all,

    So, if I’m reading this right, I am running the RC DB 4” lift, if I were to purchase and install the fox 4-6 inch coil overs, I would be able to leave it at 4” or push it to 6” if I wanted to?

    Hope to hear back!
     
  18. Aug 9, 2020 at 4:07 PM
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    I don't have experience with those particular Fox coilovers but if they are adjustable from 4-6 inches over stock height then yes, you can set it up for 4 or 5 or 6 inches or anywhere inbetween. Just set them for the lift you want then replace your current strut/spacer combo with the coilover
     
  19. Aug 10, 2020 at 2:18 AM
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    Cool, thank you for replying. Looking at buying the fox adjustable for sure. Just wanted to know if I can eliminate the strut spacer (for 4 inch lift) and replace it with the fox 4-6 and be able to lift it up to the 6 inch setting while still running the same drop bracket, spindles, uca’s, etc.
     
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    Yup. Good to go. Literally the only difference between the RC 4 and 6 inch lift is the spacer size. Every other piece is the exact same so you can set your new coil overs to any height you want.
     
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