Wyoming B.S. Thread

You can't see, but the leaf across the back is attached to the bottom of the frame. So, it's just providing more resistance. Like having an extra half-leaf pack on each side of the wagon.

Here's one photo, a few more in the write up.

 

So the horizontal leaf pack with a set of shackles connected to the longitudinal shakles acts like suspension for the body of the wagon and the regular set of shackles is suspension for the axle?

 

was wondering how the axle doesn't wander under the wagon top laterally, looks like it has all that shackle room to move left and right

 

My guess is that it does wander more than it would otherwise. But the speed that wagon saw in it's lifetime was probably in the what, 5-10mph range? Probably not very fast, so not as much of an issue.

Also, I think there were u-bolts on that crossmember originally, and as we all know, those things are pretty strong, so probably helped prevent too much lateral movement as well.

But hey, someone should go grab it and rebuild it and then we'll know for sure, hahahaha.

 

Kinda interesting that it has a differential though huh? makes me think it wasnt always towed

 

I think that it was originally a frame from a vehicle. Later repurposed, and that rear cross brace (with the funky leaf pack) was added.

 

Bummer.

Well, you're welcome to borrow the tools, or come over and we can do the job here... I mean, the "good" news is that it's not hard to fix, just a couple hours of time.

 

Bearings aren't bad. You have a press? It'll be damn expensive for a shop to do it. And they might not do it right.

Also..weird. my foxes have never done that.

 

Yeah, should work time wise.

I think there's debate on how long you can run with a leaky seal. My theory is that it comes down to whether

• the seal goes bad first and will eventually cause the bearing to go. In which case you can run longer. ...or
• the bearing goes first, and it is what caused the seal to go. I this case, you're on a "shorter" clock.

But again, just theory based on what I've heard from people who had bearings go, and people who have run with leaky seals for a long time (sometimes years).

 

I'd argue it's the opposite.

My rear bearing took 6-7 months to die before the seal went out. Been was there for that. And that thing was TOAST.

 

Ben's already at the point where the seal is leaking though. So if his bearing isn't bad, then he might have 6-7 months.

Again, none of us really know which is why I said there is debate, but we can find plenty of places online where people run leaky seals for an extended period of time. Or, they say they do. We can also find plenty of places online that say "you need to replace as soon as they start leaking."

We had an interesting conversation around the camp fire on our last trip on just this topic! As with everywhere else, there were differing opinions (I think it was ~50-50 on the opinions) and none of us really knew for sure.

 

2nd gen leafs? Not sure that'll go over awesome but cool.

If the bearing isn't making noise I'd say your okay. Granted mine made noise for a long time and steadily got louder. You might not be hearing iver the tire noise as it is or just assuming it is tire noise. When I replaced mine I was shocked how much quieter it was haha

I mean no one knows if the seals fail first and then the bearing. Or the bearing goes bad causing the seal to go bad.

 

Hopefully my POS truck makes it there.

Do you have a press? I'll stop by on my way up and help if you just want to knock it out.

Otherwise, I'd send it. Just check your gear oil occasionally, and know that your rear brakes won't do shit.

 

I'm with Brett. I think you'll be fine as long as you keep it lubed and the bearing wasn't the problem to begin with. I drove my 4Runner over 500 miles with both seals leaking and when I pulled out the bearings, they still felt tight. Of course, it's anecdotal, but still.

 

The 99’s had popped seals for atleast 2 years, doesnt really ever get driven Other than during the winter though

 

Buy a press. It's handy as hell for lots of things.

Brett Im sure will bring the tool to press out the old bearings and I bet if you asked nicely some 2'' tubing to smack in the new ones.

You'll only need the press. And that'll be handy for the rest of your life.


Just make sure your remember the C clips...cause Brett won't

 

I know it isn’t a trivial amount of money, but I’m with Monte. A HF 20T press isn’t ridiculously expensive, and you can fab up a puller tool with some steel and your welder.

Get the tools, learn how to do the job, and knock that shit out

 

Brett, Brett, and I had igor done in like 5-6 hours. If you have the truck torn down before Brett gets there you'd be done in 3 I'd guess. Or less.

Barely cut into the wheeling time. Start the beer timer earlier if anything

 

Well it's too late cause I have a few extra days and working on a scenic route to get to Ryan.



Just need to figure out what the scenic route entails...

 

What general route are you taking up? A quick stop at City of Rocks would be well worth it IMO, if it's on your way.