Why not a Jeep?

Really, I got a ticket from a CHP for doing 85 in a 65. He said he didn't know they would go that fast. I guess ignorance abounds on many levels.

 

My TJ would run 95 and I never once had the "Death Wobble". I guess maybe b/c I maintained it and kept an eye on things?

I'd still bet the major of people dogging them don't have any first hand experience with them.

 

I used to enjoy TFL on YouTube, but for the last few years all they do is praise fucking jeep, "front and rear locker", complain about Tacomas costing too much , but over look the 60k price tag on a rubicon. Jeeps are 10k overpriced anyday of the week, interior is garbage and driving quality is absent.

 

I will definitely agree with you on the cost. I also think the cost of a new Tacoma is insane though. I guess I'm still stuck in the days of a full-sized truck being 30K and a nicely equipped truck. I have and will never buy a new truck. Those numbers are just me remembering my dad mention them.

 

U can get a new sr5 4wd for not much over 30k. Tacos now have more capability than a 2000 full size in some trims. I love my truck. I'd never ever pay 60k for a jeep!

 

I get that, but I still think the price is insane. I'm a pretty simple guy and don't have any reason for a new truck. I'm perfectly fine buying good used ones...……..basically a cheap, broke bastard

 

Same man! Finally got into a position where I could buy a new Tacoma and pick what I wanted, even down to color , so I did it. I'll never get rid of this truck. Now looking at full size half tons topping 65, omg!

 

Mine is more I don't want to pay, not that I can't I drive my vehicles til the wheels fall off. I'm 41 and this is only my 5th DD) I've just always looked at them as transportation. This is the first one I have ever modded and I love it

Restored 1965 Mustang (1995-1996) put in the garage
1995 T4R(1996-2001 185K when sold)
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee (2001-2009 190K when sold)
2002 TJ (2009-2018 215K when a jackass rear ended me at a red light)

I've had a few secondary vehicles. 84 CJ7, 79 Wagoneer, and a 93 S10 Blazer.

And quite a few motorcycles.

 

I enjoy TFL but CANNOT stand how pro Ford/GM/Chevrolet they are when comparing it to a Toyota. We know and the rest of the world knows Toyota’s are one of the best quality/reliable vehicles. They complain about the stupidest shit most of the time.

 

Yep...my wife had a 2002 Jeep Liberty. When it was brand new we took it on vacation to the beach...thought we were gonna die on the interstate when I took it up to 70 mph...what a shaking piece of shit it was.

 

The Jeeps and the Tacoma are 2 different animals so it's not a fair comparison. Maybe compare the Gladiator with the Tacoma is a bit fairer.

If you want to compare Jeeps to a Toyota, compare a CJ or YJ to a FJ40. The FJ40 was built like a tank...

 

Jeeps do last that long. My family owed a 1993 Cherokee with the 4.0 that had over 400k on it before it was sold and it was still running and driving. 100% original drive train. My brother also had a Cherokee 4.0 that had 250k on it and we wheeled it hard for years. Only stopped when he rolled it and the body was trashed. I’ve owned 3 jeeps all so with the 4.0. Never had an issue. But I do also own a Tacoma now and a samurai with mostly Tacoma parts haha.

 

I owned a 2010 jk rubicon. And yes it was noisy and the materials they use on the interior are cheap. I drove it for seven years and never had any major problems I bought the max warranty with it and everything was covered. It was great off road and could go through really deep snow . But its not practical for a DD. My tacoma is way better in ride quality and more reliable. And its nice the aftermarket has plenty to offer now
Only two things i miss about my jeep is the manual transmission and having the top down with the open air driving around. If i ever got another it would be a 1980 ish cj-5

 

oops, looks like i offended someone.

Anything with a gas pedal can go over the posted speed limit, doesn't mean its going to drive good while doing it. The solid front axle has zero feedback and feels like a shopping cart

where's my money?

 

The only time I ever felt unsafe on the interstate was when I disconnected my front sway bar and forgot to reconnect.

Took a few 250+ mile trips in mine, not the most pleasant experience in a soft top (the trick is positive pressure), but never felt unsafe. Not sure I would have felt the same with more than a 2" body lift though.

 

True everyone is comparing a company to the Tacoma. I'd rather drive any Jeep than a Toyota echo.

 

I had a 2013 Jeep 6MT JK 2Dr. 3.5 inch lift on Bilstein 5100's with 35" Duratrac tires. I bought it at around 4,000km, and the manual trans was replaced under warranty at 22,000km. Trans started making a wining noise again at 44,000km, so i sold it to a wholesaler.

My taco is a 2008 6MT, 4.0 4x4 with 3" Bilstein 5100 lift, ICON leaf pack in the rear and 33" duratrac tires. only minor issues with parking brake sticking.

A few people have mentioned the jeep death wobble or steering wobble. from my experience this is always caused because of an improper lift with bad geometry.

Pro for jeep
- Doors off roof off is awesome
- Feels invincible Offroad
- Aftermarket parts are about 1/2 the price of tacoma parts. at least in Canada
- Used parts are very easy to find.
- Better Gas mileage then 4" tacoma
- 3.6L pentastar is a Mercedes engine. Supposed to be more reliable.
- Great is light or heavy snow. Tacoma needs weight in the bed or it slips
- Easy to fit 35's. I actually had them on when the jeep was stock for a couple days.
- Turns Super tight. Easy to U turn and park.

Cons for jeep
- Surface rust on all suspension parts after one winter. (Taco might be slightly worse.) For comparison my 2006 BMW with 300,000 has zero rust.
- My transmissions both sucked... but this is not a common issue
- Soft top is noisy
- No AC, power locks, or power windows...Tacoma comes stock with these items
- Basically no trunk in the 2DR.
- Impossible to get decent audio Soft top causes this.

 

There's a "New Kid In Town..."

If I were going to purchase a new vehicle that was to be a 4x4, it would not be a Jeep or a Toyota; it would be the new Ford Bronco.

Not much in the way of mods needed right out of the factory; pretty much good to go as a 4c4 off road vehicle as delivered with lots of capability at a VERY competitive price when you consider it will not need the mods that a Jeep or Toyota will require to get them to the same capability.

Thank you Glenn Frey, and The Eagles...

Regards,

Jim

 

I've had many CJs - actually my favorite was a 79 CJ5 3 speed V8...I was young and stupid with it - before I was married and kids (well that did not make me smarter)...I LOVED the CJs. I always wanted a CJ8.