Any PC Builders Out There?

I'd look into the NZXT H1 case. It comes with a PSU with prerouted cables of the correct lengths and a good CPU cooler given the case size. IMHO it's the standard for ITX power builds right now.

https://www.nzxt.com/products/h1-matte-white

 

Is it ever a sign that they might feel a shift in newer tech being released in the near future? Or is it just general future proofing?

 

General future proofing. The one, MSX, didn't run well at 1080P on the hardware available at launch either.

 

Well my phone sucks and so does the lighting in this room. I'll take a nice picture tomorrow.

Thanks for all the help everyone. I'm sure it's not over yet, but I appreciate everything along the way.

 

Is that the wraith cooler? Are you using am4? I bought one didn't come with anything to connect to my Mobo so had to return it. I was looking forward to that rgb CPU fan

 

I've got a x570 board. Got the fan off Facebook marketplace for $15

 

Anything I should do to get some baseline numbers to monitor as time goes on?

 

It's funny they tell you that, but will sell you an unlocked chip anyway, which usually cost more than the locked SKU. That extra cost should come with some sort of warranty. :Notsure: In my experience, it's the mainboard that usually suffers more than the CPU with a bad or high OC anyway.

 

It's a money grab for them. Pay an extra 20 bucks and you can get a replacement for any overclocking. Intel will warrenty issues when overclocked with their specifications (intel xmp for example).

 

Actually Intel is on record saying XMP use is not covered under warranty. You need to purchase the separate overclocking insurance from them in order to get XMP coverage. It's been in the news for months now.

 

Official press release or the same forum post bs?

Cause per my intel rep xmp is still covered. Its just important to know that you still have to fall into supported speeds. IE if the cpu supports 2933 you can't get 3200 speed ram and use xmp as that counts as "overclocking". Pretty much all the people I've heard of fall into that category which is why I tell was denying them. But I mostly deal with the server side of intel stuff so always been a bit different.

Either way there's two take aways
1) don't tell intel you use xmp when rma a cpu.
2) intel still blows for their stance on xmp and overclocking and forcing you to buy their protection plan

 

Snake oil?

https://wccftech.com/1usmus-unveils...boosting-utility-for-amd-ryzen-3000-cpus/amp/

 

Seems legit, especially since I'm not seeing anyone trying to make a quick buck off of it.

 

Linus did a bit on it and they didn't try to over sell it. I think they claimed about a 300hz increase but dropped a significant amount of wattage.

 

BS? Calm your shit and don't call me out. Intel shill much?

How about their own XMP website?

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/gaming/extreme-memory-profile-xmp.html

Anything up to the rated CPU memory controller speed is fine, if that's what you mean, but yeah Intel blows and declares your CPU warranty null and void if you use a speed beyond the memory controller speed. The whole point of XMP is what it stands for, Extreme Memory Profile, and Intel promoting XMP while voiding warranties is pretty BS. 3200 mhz ram is the standard now, especially for gaming, so it's bullshit that Intel basically tells ISBs and custom builders to run XMP and then has this loop hole to get out of warranty claims.

What's crazy is now with the 10th gen Intel has locked the memory controller to it's rated speed. I can't see how anyone can defend their business practices anymore and your rep is exactly what's wrong with Intel. "Yup, supported up to the memory controller rated speed!" Dude, no one is running anything slower than 3200mhz in new builds now and you'd be silly not to take advantage of faster memory available at the same price. Jay actually has a couple of really good videos on this.

With what Intel charges for K parts the overclockers warranty should be included. I mean I know someone who has had to do an AMD warranty claim because they, of their own fault, cooked a 3900X and AMD still warrantied it lol.

 

It's legit but YMMV. Really this is a fine tuning tool that let's you get the optimum tune out of your CCXs. Depending on how far off spec your CCXs can each run, the better your results will be.

 

If I sound aggressive it's because this has been well covered both online and in tech news. It's right on their website and everyone sites that and the forum posts where warranties have been refused on ISB and custom builds that were handled directly with Intel. I agree there are ways to hide it from Intel but the point is first time builders shouldn't have to hide overclocking in this day and age. Especially when Intel has promoted the ever loving shit out of it.

You've discovered a pet peeve of mine. When companies promote the crap out of something through third party companies and then refuse to provide support for it, yeah, that gets me salty lol.

 

Never called you out so chill out lol. Was asking if they had out out an official press release or not or if it it was still just the random cs posts that have been posted going back since 2016 (if not longer) where people were bitching when using xmp and overclocking over what intel had said was acceptable for the cpu and something goes wrong and intel denied them for it (overclocking over speeds supported by the cpu per intel)

So take your chill pill, have a beer or something and continue shilling amd just like everyone should be for 90 percent of use cases

And the protection plan from intel is the dumbest thing ever. Any plan like that for any product is bull

 

Every few months I click on this thread and every time, it's the same exact thing

So, enjoy this really shitty image I made in MS Paint

 

Totally fair. This last spat involved NZXT two months ago. They declined a bunch of warranty work on H1 prebuilts because XMP was enabled. When NZXT was pushed by the community they changed their policy but openly said they were following what Intel told them to do, which was deny all CPU or MB replacement warranty work on systems with XMP enabled. AMD systems were still being warrantied according to people who had sent theirs in even if XMP was still enabled.