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Dude, I am not one for persecuting the 100 percent of the population because of 3 percent, which is exactly what our TSA policies do. A knee jerk reaction to a statistically minimal threat. A reaction that has spun out of control. Cockpits are controlled, so the risk of using the plane as a weapon is no longer a threat. So what is the real risk we are looking at here? The fifty or so people on board? There are much bigger targets these days, so I don't see the big issue with all the control over flying. Gimme a break. Terrorist inflict terror as their weapon. They are using quite effectively, obviously, and our politicians play right into it. Now, let me also get something else straight. Those that think this is some kind of alienation of our rights are way off the mark. That is an invalid argument. Flying is a service that you pay for, therefore your rights have nothing to do with it. If you don't want to deal with the policies, don't fly.

 

C.R.E.A.M.

 

Sure, it isn't a right. I agree, and it's annoying when the fourth amendment comes up in reference to this stuff.

On the other head, let's get something ELSE straight. There is no practical alternative to long-distance travel, so saying "don't fly" is unreasonable, and you know it.

And before you say "drive", no, I cannot drive to Europe, and it would take me days to drive across the country to go to New York, LA, Canada, etc.

 

Good breakdown man. Although, we all know that shiny electronics are sooo much more effective than actually training people. Make the computers think, not the people.

 

I will say this again who cares! If you need to fly and you say it takes for ever to drive across the country and not flying is not an option. GUESS WHAT??!?!?! The world does not revolve around your stubborn ass do the pat or scan or dont fly. Yes I said it again its black and white now have fun with this post and sit in your towers. Good day.

 

Your rights do have something to do with it. The 4th amendment protects you from the government. The TSA is a federal agency, therefore according to the constitution for them to search you there has to be probable cause and they have to have a warrant. And you when you purchase a ticket you are doing business with the airline, you are a customer of the airline not the federal government. You are entering into a agreement with a private company not the government when you purchase a ticket.

 

Good point... Oh wait, you completely lacked one.

In response to "how about we find a solution that protects us against terrorists without invading our privacy?", which I think we can all agree is a pretty reasonable option, I get: "No! LOL!1!!!1!"

Please either educate yourself beyond the level of "idiot" or choke.

 

Interesting point! - hadn't thought about it that way.

 

1) Who had mass hysteria? I think most of us have "gotten over" terrorist attacks on planes. They're infrequent. In fact, I would go so far as to say we're constantly being reminded of terrorism because we've forgotten about it!

And 2) http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother

Train your security to look at people's behavior and watch for nervous people (nervous in the I'm-gonna-bomb-you sense). Done.

 

Again. Invalid. Flying on a commercial airplane, no matter how you slice it, is not an indelible right. Where is that indicated in the constitution?

 

Why is everyone arguing about whether it's constitutionally protected? Who cares?

The fact is, lots of us need to fly. Nobody actually likes being scanned or groped, except for the odd weirdo.

So why can we not investigate options that secure our ability to fly without inviting in Big Sis? Why is everyone assuming there is only Scanner or no Scanner? What about option C, people, seriously?

 

So because driving in our car down the road isn't written in our rights they should be allowed to stop us and do a pat down just to make sure we don't have drugs or bombs?

 

Yes because a highly trained terrorist is going to act very nervous!! What world are you living in. They are to the point that it could be your neighbor or co worker and you the one with blinders on would have no idea its going on.

 

God you're an idiot. Seriously.

But yeah, the Israelis know nothing about terrorists, aside from being the prime target of just about all of the Islamic world due to tensions since Israel's inception. But yup, other than that, they're clueless.

And the Chinese know nothing about rice, either. I'll consult Germans on sausage and Israelis on terrorism, thank you very much.

 

Because just like you said "Nobody actually likes being scanned or groped, except for the odd weirdo." So naturally if nobody likes it what's a way to get rid of it? How about the fact that it's a pretty obvious violation of our rights, that seems like a much better reason to get rid or change something rather then because nobody likes it".

As to option C... I think leaving our security like it is is just a fine option C. Our security is already leaps and bounds ahead of 9/11 and how many terrorist attacks have we had since then?

 

Your the one losing your cool over an internet thread. And yes you are living in a fantasy world.

 

Well exactly. I'm against the scanners, I'm just saying whether it is a constitutionally protected right is irrelevant.

What I meant is, if the citizens don't want to be bodyscanned, they shouldn't be bodyscanned, whether they're constitutionally allowed to bodyscan us or not.

 

Losing my cool makes me impatient, not stupid, but don't worry, I wouldn't expect you to know the difference.

Sorry, I think I got my full quota of asshole pills today. I'll stop being so mean. But seriously, consider what you're saying - you WANT these scanners, despite the availability of alternatives and despite the fact that those alternatives could be better. Why?