Any PC Builders Out There?

I have a 5930k which will definitely bottleneck the 3080. I'll overclock it once I have the GPU to help it out a bit. Hopefully the rumors are true that DDR5 will debut on desktop in a year.

 

Sorry, yes that's what I meant. Well sort of lol. They actually had 7nm booked with TSMC but they called a bluff on TSMC pricing/supply which lost them TSMC UV die supply for this year. So now they have the Samsung 8nm process until TSMC let's them back in next year. The newer TSMC foundries are the most advanced node available right now for large scale products.

 

If you're willing to drop 3080 coin why not pickup a cheap B550 board and Ryzen 3600 if PCI-E 4.0 turns out to be a big deal? I mean it might not, we will know soon enough, but it seems silly not to spend an extra $200 to carry your $600ish card at near its max capacity. You'll probably even be able to find something used cheap once the 4000 series drops. Just a thought.

 

Have you seen anything on if the 30xx cards being PCI-E 4 will really have any effect on things for average users? Seems so far all I've heard is more of a "cool its pci-e 4". Even nvidia didnt seem to really mention it in the bit I saw of their presentation.

Course we should have a better idea once reviewers get cards and can release info

 

Well the 2080Ti drops a good amount of frames going from a 16x PCI-E 3.0 link down to a 8x PCI-E 3.0 link. So, if the 3080 really can push double the data rate it stands to reason that PCI-E 3.0 even a 16x may not be enough.

There was also a leak a while back where a known industry insider basically said a nVidia engineer told him Intel was going to be hurt by the high end nVidia cards. Intel was supposed to be on PCI-E 4.0 now but they had to pull the feature back during the nVidia development of the 30 series cards.

I'd say between those two things there is a real chance that PCI-E 4.0 will matter on at least the 3090, and possibly the 3080.

Time will tell.

 

I definitely see it more a factor for the 3090. 3080 Im betting won't be as big of a change.

That's my bet at least

 

My 1st PC was DDR2, my 1st gaming PC was DDR3, my current build is DDR4 so I'd like the next build to be DDR5.

Next gen chipsets from AMD and maybe Intel will probably be supported for at least 3 generations so I'll have room to upgrade as long as I pick the right Mobo.

5930k is similar to a R5 2600x so it's not horribly outdated. Its good enough to last another year or two. Overclock will definitely help.

3600X with 32GB 3600 CL16, 1TB gen4 SSD and a x570 Mobo would set me back about $800 after tax. The rest of the parts can come from my current build. I do have a $720 gift card to Microcenter for reimbursement from a defective 1080ti. The smart move would be to get those parts and just pay out of pocket for a 1660S or splurge on a 3070, maybe even wait for Zen3.

We'll just have to wait for the PCI 3 vs PCI 4 ampere benchmarks. If it's just down 10% for frames per second then I can live with it but if there are latency issues and major stuttering then I'll have a dilemma.

 

Completely fair. My idea relies 100% on PCI-E 4.0 mattering. If it doesnt you're good to go. I was also thinking about the used market for pricing but again good points all around.

 

Probably. It'll l be interesting though if there is a difference since the 2080Ti was running right against the capabilities of PCI-E 3.0 for gaming.

Either way I wouldn't buy Intel at all right now until we know.

 

From Nvidia Community Manager-


"System performance is impacted by many factors and the impact varies between applications. The impact is typically less than a few percent going from a x16 PCIE 4.0 to x16 PCIE 3.0. CPU selection often has a larger impact on performance.We look forward to new platforms that can fully take advantage of Gen4 capabilities for potential performance increases."

Still want to see benchmarks to confirm this.

 

Lol, I hope the joke was apparent with the $12k 8K TV I linked.

 

I don't think it's unreasonable to expect 2080ti performance out of a 3070. The 970 was basically a 780ti so they've done it before and this time they're bragging about their generational leap.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying swallow the koolaid but IMO there's more reason to be optimistic than not.

 

I'd wait for reviews either way. Don't get me wrong, I hope those numbers are accurate, but nVidia has been caught pushing marketing speak over reality in the near past and the lack of really concrete numbers based on what I said is a bit frustrating. I'm not sure if you remember the 20 series launch but it was a lot like this.

I have a feeling these cards are really amazing at ray tracing but a more mild upgrade for everything else. Again, I hope I'm wrong.

 

The more I read into the 3090 though, the more I want one lol. Under water with all those Cuda cores I'm guessing that thing is an incredible beast.

 

Just waiting for everything to settle so I can see if I'll be upgrading my 1070ti...

 

One thing I'm catching in the reviews posted of nVidia's video that I hadn't considered. Supposedly, internally anyways, nVidia was very unhappy with 2080 and 2080Ti sales. The 2080 Super didn't do much better. I thought they did fine but supposedly during the last three years overall market share of these cards was pretty stagnant compared to previous launches. With the Xbox series X promising 2080Ti level performance nVidia swung for the fences to try and keep market share away from the console market and increase 3080 and 3090 series sales back to the nVidia "acceptable" levels. Makes sense.

Dammit nVidia, let us see some true on hand third party reviews. Supposedly reviewers will have samples on hand this week of both cards but they won't be allowed to post anything until launch day.

 

ill wait a year or two for the dust to settle, considering how the previous rtx launch went I'm sceptical to be a day one buyer.

 

Same. I just want a 3090 like a kid wants a new video game lol.

 

Looking to see if there would be interest for my current build if I sold it (phoenix area but willing to ship)... All parts were acquired brand new, and the build has been running without overclocking (because I value quiet and thermals over power) for a few months of 1080p gaming. I'm not new to PC building and I babied this thing like crazy when building it and whenever I open it up for cleaning/maintenance.

Eyeing moving up to 4k and the new 3000 series cards, as well as a bigger case and curious what the market would be like. Not in a rush, just dangerously curious

Current build:
Case: Louqe Ghost S1 Ash w/ Large Tophat and Medium Tophat
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X w/ Arctic MX-4 Thermal Paste
Mobo: Asus ROG Strix B-450-I
GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 2070 Super Founders Edition
SSD: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200mhz 16GB
PSU: Corsair SFX600
Cooling (rad and pump): Alphacool 240mm rad with solo lt cpu clock/pump
Cooling (fans): Noctua NF-A12 x 25 120mm (brown) x2
Monitor: Alienware AW2518Hf 1080P @ Native 240 Hz , 1ms 25"
Monitor 2: BenQ 24 Inch IPS 1080P @ 60 Hz
Extras:
- Full pslate custom cabling
- AMD Wraith Prism RGB CPU Cooler (new in box) x1
- Noctua NF-A12 x 25 120mm (brown) (new in box) x1
- Noctua NF-A12 x 15 Slim 120mm (brown) (new in box) x1
- Noctua NH-L9x65, 65mm Premium Low-Profile CPU Cooler (Brown) (lightly used before acquiring liquid cooling) x1
- Alphacool 120mm black fan (new in packaging, came with rad) x2

If you want to know more or want pictures, let me know (or PM), otherwise just sort of listing to see if there is interest. Not looking to part it out right now and not really 100% on selling it, though for a decent bid, I would consider it.

What do you guys think?

 

Hopefully they learned and dont release a million different variants. Leave it 3080 and then a 3080ti. None of this super and 1660 crap.

But really the timing for these is a lot better. More games needing the extra power, more people have moved to 1440p/4k gaming and higher refresh rates are more common. And the fact gpu mining was dying and flooding the used market with decent deals. Gaming at 1080p didnt seem like it warranted the upgrade from 1080ti to a 20 series if you werent interested in the RTX for a lot of people

I know for me the 20 series was meh. But Im excited for the 30 series, just be a matter of which and when I pick up. (pending anything significant from AMD in the gpu market)