Investment BS Thread - Stocks/Futures/Mutual Funds/Bonds/Commodities/Options/ETFs/401ks/Etc

Yes buy and sell.. stock. Not margins, not futures, not gambling. The real financial health of a company is not ridiculous. P/E ratios are not ridiculous. Yields are not ridiculous. Do you even look at those things?

 

Sure I look at those things, but I'm convinced that sentiment, and only sentiment, drives the market. The only reason any of those things matter to the price of a stock is if they change sentiment.
Shorting a stock is nothing more than betting it will drop in price. Shorting doesn't make it drop in price. The only way the market can be manipulated is with massive amounts of money, or somehow affecting sentiment.
Shorting has nothing to do with that, and your call to have the Feds step in and eliminate it is patently ridiculous.

Any time anyone doesn't like something (most likely because they don't understand it) they holler "There aughta be a law!"
Well now we have millions and millions of laws and most of them are stupid and don't do whatever they were meant to do.

 

I think human behavior will cause the overshoot to the upside, followed by the overshoot to the downside, and repeat. That won’t stop if you removed short selling and margin. The key is to realize it and hold on for the ride.

 

they stop the masses from doing it but just make the determined find loopholes.

 

Here’s an example of the insanity of “sentiment” Regarding Tesla:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fortun...-cars-stock-prediction-electric-cars-evs/amp/

Yeah don’t need no stink in’ new laws. Just need the ones we used to have regarding short selling. History lesson:
“Short sellers were blamed for the Wall Street Crash of 1929.[16] Regulations governing short selling were implemented in the United States in 1929 and in 1940.[citation needed] Political fallout from the 1929 crash led Congress to enact a law banning short sellers from selling shares during a downtick; this was known as the uptick rule, and this was in effect until 3 July 2007 when it was removed by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC Release No. 34-55970).”

 

I agree on the uptick rule, that should come back. I think short selling serves an important purpose though, it keeps companies honest, so it should stay. Just my opinions.

 

Well everyone gets to have one of those.
I don’t blame just short selling though I think it’s part of the problem, and there are plenty of big money short sellers manipulating the market with their propaganda in the news. The bigger problem is big tech hype, in the news, in social media. I guarantee many new investors in tech don’t even know what a P/E ratio or a Yield is. The market is full of lemming investors making decisions based on hype not substance.

 

I didn't until I started following this thread. I thank you all for helping me learn about this part of money making.

 

They’ll learn like we all did. They should look at the historical P/E of a company they’re interested in and compare it to now. I suppose you can pay a little more now with the interest rate environment and liquidity. But still, you gotta look at that!

 

I’ve seen some of your more specific posts, you did very well.

 

Im happy.

 

As someone hoping to bump up his 401k over his measly million before retirement, best advice I can give to anyone is start a 401K early and don’t put all your eggs in one basket, look at how the funds are doing long term and invest based on that. I started late, hopefully you can do much better!

 

Oh...welll...Anyone short on AZN? Trials HALTED due to an unusual death... https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/09/08/astrazeneca-coronavirus-vaccine-clinical-trial-pau/


Just kick me while I'm down

 

I didn’t see death. Just illness, that must be new

 

Been wondering, Iwilltaco, did you ever taco?

 

I not only down I'm also out. I deployed the eject button at about 11PST today. Play account is sitting at 100% cash right now. I'm still up a very good ways but not nearly as much as I was 3 days ago. lol

 

When are you gonna go back in, oh wise esoteric one?

 

Modern day investing... sickness where patient is expected to recover becomes “death” on social media, investors panic, Market crashes...
Happens Sometimes:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...doing-fine-online-death-rumours-elisa-granato

 

Whenever I see a good opportunity. The Nasdaq is way closer to 10800 then I thought it would get. If it falls below that it could spiral way, way down. So, for now, I wait. lol

 

Yeah...Maybe they updated it...I read death earlier...Guess the revived him