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37K Miles and Transmission Went Out

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by okccj, Sep 7, 2020.

  1. Sep 10, 2020 at 6:53 AM
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    0xDEADBEEF Swaying to the Symphony of Destruction

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    I doubt you'll get an extended warranty on the whole truck due to a transmission failure. No harm in trying though.
     
  2. Sep 10, 2020 at 6:56 AM
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    Why a V8? I've done years of research on the F150 because that was going to be my next truck. If the Tacoma didn't fit my lifestyle better and I was in a full size, the F150 would be it. More specifically, a 2018 2.7L EcoBoost Lariat. The 5.0 has timing chain issues and since 2018 they have oil consumption issues. They're possibly related to the PCV Valve, but Ford still can't figure it out. The 3.5L also has timing issues. A lot of those are mitigated by changing the oil regularly and not stretching it to 10,000 miles. There are far more 2.7L engines out there and yet I still hear less issues with those that aren't fluke things.

    Why a Lariat? Because the dash is leather. The plastic ones in the XL and XLT warp.

    Far better MPG as well. Some claim it is bad for what it is rated, but it also depends how you drive it. I've also heard 24 MPG highway in the 3.5L from people I know with them.

    The aluminum body was also a huge selling point since I live in a salt-heavy state. Not to mention they don't dent as easy (although harder to repair when they do). People often worry about this and have shown some pretty extreme cases, but they're flukes. Aluminum has been used in many vehicles over the years. The biggest concerns kind of went away after the 2015 model year.

    The Tundra will be more reliable, solely because it has been so long since an update. But it has far worse MPG and less power. But, it's your decision.
     
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  3. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:00 AM
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    suprafastcelica TOYOTA 4 LIFE

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    whom ever you talk to, get it in writing signed ect..... they lie and say what ever you want to hear but when it comes down to them doing what they agreed upon, that is another story.
     
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  4. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:03 AM
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    lol...this! I didn't believe they were actually going to give it to me until the paperwork arrived in the mail
     
  5. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:29 AM
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    Really good stuff here and I have a few comments questions:
    The only reason I was thinking a V8 is because of how much I like the way the V8 tundra feels, compared to my V6 tacoma. It feels like the engine is sufficiently powerful and easily pulls the vehicle down the road with little effort. Something I don't like about my tacoma is that it seems like the engine really has to work hard.

    Does the V6 Ecoboost feel the same as a V8?
    I certainly do like the better fuel economy, but was willing to sacrifice it for the V8 feel.
     
  6. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:33 AM
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    The only sacrifice of the EcoBoost is the sound. It is a turbo V6. But it'll beat just about any truck out there off the line (and some cars). Especially if you are at any sort of elevation.

    Let me also mention that the Max Tow package for the F150 isn't even available on the V8. It is only available on the 3.5L. All I can say is go test drive one to see for sure. My father in law did a pull, while already doing 35 MPH when he started, and it still sent all the stuff flying that the owner had left tucked into the visors. That was the 3.5L EcoBoost as well.
     
  7. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:37 AM
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    I'm a conservative driver and don't tow anything. Not really concerned about the sound of the truck, it's more the effortless feel of driving a V8 that I really like.
    In the back of my head I've always wondered if an OVtune would make my tacoma feel the way I like.
     
  8. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:38 AM
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    Also, is there much difference in feel/quality of the 2.7 L versus the 3.5L ecoboost?
     
  9. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:42 AM
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    You'll have no issues with the feel of either EcoBoost motor. Some people have questions about reliability with a turbo engine, but that comes from engines that weren't built around the turbo and just had one slapped on instead. These engines were built around their turbos. (Keep in mind pretty much all diesels run turbos now).

    The only issues I've heard with the turbos come from the wastegates getting stuck. That's usually from people who, for example, tow once a year and are super conservative the rest of the time. The solution is to get on it every now and again to prevent the carbon from building up there which ultimately causes the issue.

    The biggest benefit, feel wise, is that you have a ton of low end power. The Taco doesn't really come into its own until about 3500 or higher. The EcoBoost will pull much lower than that. Peeling out is super easy if you turn off TC as well. Plus, Ford also allows you to engage your rear locker in 2WD if you really want to.
     
  10. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:44 AM
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    Thanks again for all the good info. The Tundra had rear air, do the F-150s?
     
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    From what I've seen, not really. The 2.7 will have a bit better MPG and doesn't get off the line quite as well as the 3.5L, but people are extremely impressed with it. Actually, when it first came out, TFL Truck set their best 1/4 mile drag time with the 2.7L and not the 3.5L.
     
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    Unfortunately, no air suspension in the F150. That's more RAM territory. Don't get me started on them lol. But from my understanding, if you don't need air, don't get it. It can have a harsher ride and in extreme cases, winter can wreak havock on the airbags.
     
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  13. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:47 AM
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    I'm sorry, I should have clarified. I mean rear AC and Heat, not suspension.
     
  14. Sep 10, 2020 at 7:50 AM
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    Oh, yes there are vents back there. There's even an option for heated rear seats as well as plugs.

    Edit: you can get dual climate, but it is L and R, not front and back.
     
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  15. Sep 10, 2020 at 8:00 AM
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    You sound like the perfect fit for 2.7 Ecoboost. It'll feel more V8 like than the 5.0 with tons more torque down low. Don't hold onto the old turbos only make HP at high RPM nonsense. It's not remotely true anymore.

    It's a great feeling hitting a hill and no downshifting at all. RPM's don't even change you just hear a slight turbo whistle and get up the hill with no fuss.
     
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    sounds like a sensor failed and not the transmission. probably just needs one of the sensors on the trans replaced.
     
  18. Sep 10, 2020 at 9:05 AM
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    I don't think so. I doubt the dealership would have replaced the tranny if it was just a sensor
     
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    When I gave up my Tacoma (towing limited) I test drove the F150 3.5, the Dodge Rebel and the Tundra 5.7L. I got the Tundra. I get a bit over 18 mpg on interstate and around 16 in town and I have over 40K on it already. Towing 8K loads is no issue with this Truck and without a load it is effortless driving. I drove to Nevada from South Carolina earlier this year and it performed great. Favorite feature is 38 gallon fuel tank.
    When I had my Tacoma, It was a manual and I got around 19.1 mpg on highway, so I lost one mpg or about 4.8%. Doing the math and assuming gas at $2/gal to make things easy, also figuring for me driving 20K a year, the fuel cost difference between my Tacoma and the Tundra equates to... wait for it... $256 a year. Divide it by 12 and it's a whopping $21 a month. That's my cost for switching from a Tacoma to a Tundra. These guys can sing the praises of a twin turbo, and done correctly is just fine, but there is also the rest of the truck to worry about and I will take the reliability and durability of a Toyota over a Ford or Dodge any day.
     
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    RocTaco Free stun!

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    My 2017 didn't have one from the factory, I did add a Curt hitch and wiring harness later though.
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