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2.7L RWD Oil Pan Replacement

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Tacomas (2005-2015)' started by ICECOLDBEER, Sep 5, 2020.

  1. Sep 23, 2020 at 12:28 PM
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    BassAckwards

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    Reinstall should go something like this: upper oil pan>oil pickup>lower oil pan

    The oil pickup will definitely be in the way and you wont be able to remove the upper pan without taking that off
     
  2. Sep 23, 2020 at 12:30 PM
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    Appreciate the reply. Essentially if the UPPER oil pan(bottom of engine) was a couple inches higher I think the pan would be able to clear the strainer. I'm just not sure how one would go about lifting the enigne?
     
  3. Sep 23, 2020 at 12:31 PM
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    Are you having clearance issues getting it out with the oil pickup removed?
     
  4. Sep 23, 2020 at 12:36 PM
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    No I still have the oil pickup in place. I guess I should just remove it. But then its going to be hard to reinstall everything. Because pickup will need to be installed with oil pan sitting just under it with gasket maker installed. Its doable I guess.
     
  5. Sep 23, 2020 at 12:47 PM
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    You should be able to apply gasket maker to the upper pan, install that, then put the pickup on and then apply gasket maker and do the lower oil pan. I dont remember having issues getting them to go together when i threw mine back on, went together pretty easily actually. Should be much easier than buying an engine crane and trying to lift it. Of course, if that was a route you wanted to go, there are several threaded holes on the head that can be used to pull it out. Something like this

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  6. Sep 23, 2020 at 1:31 PM
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    There's just not enough clearance with the pickup on to slide the pan on/off. Would it be a terrible idea to lift the engine/transmission here via floor jack----> pic related.

    Inked20200923_155743[2306]_LI.jpg
     
  7. Sep 23, 2020 at 1:35 PM
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    I would say yes, just because it will be very unbalanced. the iron block on our 2.7 isnt exactly light. Just from looking at your pic, i would say having the trans out of the truck was my saving grace. Doesnt appear to be much room there with that in the way
     
  8. Sep 23, 2020 at 1:40 PM
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    There is not much room at all. I just worked for a month down there lol
     
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    It was nice to have the trans mount disconnected and i could tilt drive line up or down which helped A LOT with clearance on bolts.
     
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  10. Sep 23, 2020 at 1:43 PM
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    I'm with Brian on this one. I think removing the trans mount and jacking the back of the trans up will give you more room without having to remove the trans
     
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    I put my trans jack under the transmission pan and had a good bit of adjust ability in the drive line that way. Basically was the only way to get the top bell housing bolts out and back in.
     
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    now that you mention it, i always lower the trans down a little to get to those top two bolts as well
     
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    Ah i dont know what to do now. I can get the pan out if I remove the pick up tubes. It's just putting it back together is going to be really difficult.
     
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    hmm one other person suggested on YouTube that they had an 06 and they had to jack the transmission up.
    I'm wondering on the transmission mount is it best to undo the 4 bolts on the bottom or the other 4 bolts on the side? And also can I get away with using a regular floor jack with a piece of wood? And I jack via the transmission oil pan?
     
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    The 4 bolts up top will probably be easier, you could probably get away with a block of wood and a floor jack. I had a transmission jack so it made everything eady
     
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    I would go that way too, Transmission mount unbolted with a floor jack under the tail shaft housing. Maximum leverage and control.
     
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    Just curious what you mean by "the tail shaft housing"? I was planning to place the jack on the transmission pan.
     
  18. Sep 23, 2020 at 7:36 PM
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    The Tail Shaft Housing is where the drive shaft enters the transmission it is stronger there than around the bell housing or pan area. Plus it gives you better leverage for lifting. Just make sure you press in front of the sheet metal cup where the shaft goes in.

    I suppose that jacking on the pan is not a bad idea as long as you use some wood to spread the load across the pan area. I just hate pressing on an oil pan.

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  19. Sep 30, 2020 at 7:37 PM
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    Thought I would post an update. I was able to get the old oil pan off by unbolting the transmission mounts and jacking where I suggested in the pic above. I tried further back as suggested but moving closer to the pan gave me just enough space to get it out. It was still very tricky and little to no room to remove it. I was nervous the whole time I had it jacked up by the transmission. Could this cause damage?

    I dropped it back down to clean the surface. To reinstall I lifted tranny again and slid new oil pan in. I didn't put sealer on the pan itself. It was too tricky put in place without rubbing off rtv. With the pan sitting there I reinstalled the oil pick up tube. Then I applied RTV around the UPPER oil pan (the surface I had cleaned). Along the inside edge. Put bolts back on finger tight waited an hour and then torqued as per Permatex instructions. I ended up using Permatex Ultra Black. Would have liked to have used "Right Stuff" or Toyota FPIG but just didn't think I would get all the bolts tightened in time. Looking back on it and permatex website I probably should have used Ultra Grey. IDK I just wanted the longer drying time.

    I tried my best to apply RTV correctly. Cut the tube to 3mm. But just with the limited space and applying it upwards it was hard to make it one continuous bead. It looked okay but not perfect. I think I might have used a tad too much but not crazy excessive. My question-- could using a little bit too much cause any problems? I wonder if I should have smeared it in a thin layer. A little bit squeezed out the sides in a few places when I tightened everything but not a crazy amount. I imagine more squeezed out inside the pan because I used it on the inside edge? Would any possible RTV make it past the pick up?

    Currently letting the RTV cure for 24 hours so i'll filler up tomorrow and hope shes good.
     
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  20. Sep 30, 2020 at 7:51 PM
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    Pretty sure the pickup tube has a strainer that would stop anything going to the pump. A little RTV squeezed out isn't going to hurt anything.

    Let us know how it goes!

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