Baja Designs: General Discussion Thread

he's right that lens option isn't available

 

And here I thought I had a solution...

Goes back behind the curtain... LOLOL

 

Unfortunately, the Onx6 Hi-Power was replaced with the Onx6+ and no longer in production.

 

No worries, the new 20" Onx6+ has 4 racer spots as well, correct? How would the new 20" bar look on the road vs say 3 LP4's? Should be roughly the same lumen output (approx 24K) but of course the LP4's have the IPT and you would have the option to aim the LP4's maybe a little laterally to cover more width at the far end.

My guess is the LP4's would have a little wider spread, but that's just a guess. Would the overall light be as even (near mid and far)? Would one or the other have more reach?

 

Correct, four racer LEDs in the 20" Onx6+. The IPTs in the LP4s will provide a 200 degree spread, more adjustment, and about the same beam intensity as a 20" Onx6+. They use the same reflectors so you'll be hitting about the same reach. My vote is the three LP4s because of the left and right adjustment.

 

How would LP4s get the same reach without racer led chips?

 

The LP4 has four forward-projecting LEDs which consists of the following.

(1) XP-L High Intensity: dome-less LED providing a dedicated distance. (RACER LED)
(1) XP-L: providing mid field and distance.
(2) XHP50: providing near and mid field light.

The IPT LEDs consist of (4) XPG3 LEDs, 2 per side.

The combination of these different LEDs provides an exceptionally smooth blend of light covering all field zones: distance, mid, and nearfield all in one package. It gets about the same reach.

 

Fair enough. I’ll keep rockin the 40” hi power. I do sometimes wish I would’ve gone with 3 LP9s instead, 2 pros and 1 racer as they would sit a little higher then the ONX6 the way my bumpers built. They’d look pretty cool and the amber running lights are sweet but they’d also block almost all the air going to my grille so I’m probably better off with the much lower profile light bar. Plus it’s somewhat stealth the way I made the mounts so it doesn’t attract as much attention as 3 LP9s would right in your face.

 

This is a consideration for me as well. I guess there is no free lunch. If my numbers are right, with the 3 LP4's vs the 20" bar, and the 3LP9's vs the 40" bar both cases result in less square inches of space with the bar vs the individual light.

How do you like the 40" bar? How's the spread? Do you have any supplemental lights with it? I currently have a 10" bar but with 2 Squadron pro on the A Pillar. I really feel like the Squadrons help fill in a bunch (driving combo on all lights).

 

Definitely better off blocking the least amount of airflow. My 40” hi power is 46,600 lumens and obnoxiously bright, it requires a power input to each side of the bar. I have XL80s on the pillars in spot pattern pointed straight forward with wide cornering S1s pointing to the sides.

That ditch light setup is honestly more light then I’d really need and I drive desolate highways at higher speeds. The light bar itself pretty much drowns out the ditch lights aside from the S1s since they’re angled to the sides. It lights up everything beside and in front of me with a ton of light. I really don’t know what more anyone could want.

 

LP9 pros for sale!!

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads...es-both-clear-and-amber.688128/#post-24290905


Next up will be some XL80’s and a 40” OnX6 Hi-Power

 

That sucks man, lots of good lights there and the hi power series is no more. I may snag the XL80s

 

$500. Comes with amber wide cornering, amber combo, and clear slot lenses

 

So here's where I'm at. I'm using all amber because I find that light less fatiguing and I imagine this will be even more true come winter when the roads are snow and ice glazed (5 months of the year). Around town it's great, but I got up to highway speeds (60MP+) and I want more light at the far end.

I have 2 Squadron pros on the A Pillar (wide/driving) aimed slightly outwards and a 10" ONX6+ (running only high power also wide driving) on the bumper. The 3 LP4's are a little bigger and more expensive than I'd like.

It seems like my option(s):
1- return the 10" ONX6+ and get the 20" ONX6+ wide/driving (I think this also would just be plug and play with the same wiring harness as the 10" so no extra wiring or switch modifications - right?)
2 - (maybe) get the wide/cornering for the 10" bar and get the Squadron Racers for the A-Pillar (no amber though, right ), and will I lose some near field light I have now with the Squadrons toes out?
3 - get the Spot lens for the 10" (though no Amber again) and I worry I might have some mid field light gap with just the slightly toed out Squadron pros on the A Pillar dealing with near and some mid-field and then the spot on 10" hitting just out at a distance.

So, recommendations to get more light at the far end without losing what I have mid and near field? I can still return the 10" bar and apply that credit to whatever I get. I've had the A Pilar squadrons too long to do so, and I like what they give me for local streets (but I could move them to the bumper).

 

When you say wide driving are you referring to what BD calls the driving/combo lens?

If you need more distance then what you currently have then I guess there’s no way around needing something racer or laser. I’d imagine you’ll lose a lot of near and midfield light if you switch the onx6+ to a racer.

I really don’t know how much light you’ll get from squadron racers as I have no experience with them but they have much smaller reflectors then the racer chips in your onx6, but you’ll have 8 vs 2.

I’d go 20” onx6+ that’ll give you 2 more large racers, squadron racers on the pillar and move the squadron pros to the bumper pointed any direction you want.

You’re probably losing perceived distance with everything being amber as well.

 

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Yeah, I thought about that. I've heard it only cuts about 10% but I have no idea where that number came from. Yes, "driving/combo" is what I meant.

I suspect the 20" bar would be the answer with the two extra racers. Just to be clear though, I don't need more distance, just a little more brightness at the far end of the distance I have now but I'd like to keep the near and midfield light amounts I currently have. I suppose one option would be to try the clear lens on the 10" and see how it does. I really do like the amber though.

The amber is very soft and easy on the eyes. I suspect that once the snow flies (not long now) the amber will make for more relaxed eyes and less strain at night. Can anyone comment to that? Driving fatigue with clear vs amber lenses on road covered with snow and ice (Alaska interior)? Not falling snow, but roads and shoulders that are already covered in snow and often glare ice. Snow up here generally stays white and clean, unlike the muddy yucky way snows ends up in places with melt and freezing going on.

 

I've got an amber S8 paired with a clear ONX6+ and I think the combo is very nice. The amber by itself is a little too ambery for me.

 

I agree. Ambers are nice for general driving in dirt or snow, and add the white light up top when I need to see stuff farther ahead.

 

I like the amber so that ok with me. I don't have the option for two bars so it's either gonna have to be a mix, or maybe a more powerful amber to get the job done. I ordered the clear lens so I'll see what effect that has.

When you say driving "in snow" you like the ambers, do mean falling snow, or just on a snowy road? Once it snows here it generally stays on the roads and road sides for the season. So technically we're driving on snow about 5 months out of the year .