Dealer suggested maintenance

My dealer suggested I get the following maintenance done at 45,000 miles. Front & rear brake service, transmission service(I have the 4 cylinder with manual transmission), coolant service and front and rear differential service. Replace engine and cabin filters. All for $450. Do you think this is necessary?

 

do you need new brakes front / rear? have you flushed the transmission/coolant/diff fluid yet? have you replaced engine/cabin filters recently? is it necessary to drink my own urine? no but it's sterile and i like the taste.

 

I don't believe any of that is listed in the Owners Manual at 45k, sounds like they are trying to rip you off.

 

I would want an further explanation of what's being done to make a determination of whether or not it is required. Since dealer shop time is usually at least $100/hr, that doesn't leave too much left for parts/fluids. I suspect this is a "check" of these things designed to sell you more service.

 

Brakes: you can inspect those yourself and see if you need it done
Transmission: Pardon my ignorance, as I have never owned a manual transmission, but what maintenance needs to be done to a manual?
Fluids: You can do all that yourself, pretty easy
Filters: Again, you can do all that yourself and for much cheaper

 

I would not think it would need brakes at 45,000 miles. Filters you can replace yourself. Are they just checking fluid levels? Sounds expensive to me.

 

sounds like just filter changes and checking fluids and brake wear. you can do most of that yourself like others said. Brake pads and shoes probably won’t be included in the cost they quoted. I'd say change the filters yourself as needed and same with the fluid checks. I'd go to an independent mechanic for new brakes or any fluid changes you don't want to do on your own, it's usually cheaper and better service.

 

No, dealer service is just that, its what the dealer wants to recommend on top of factory service. It is in no way needed, and is put together by finance teams to make the dealership more money. Skip it as 90% of what they listed there looks to be inspect parts and not actually service them.
Check your manual and only ask for whats listed by the factory.

 

MTs are identical to the diffs. Drain and fill, just using a different fluid.

 

The engine and cabin filters are very very easy to do yourself.

 

You should ask them what intervals Toyota recommends for all that, then go over what the manual says for 45k service with them. Make sure to do it in front of other customers so they are all turned onto the dealerships fuck fuck games.

 

I replaced my front brakes at 92k and the pads still had life left but the rotors were warped. I would hope yours are still good at 45k.

 

Just a tip that you might already know, depending on the cause of your warp, but tightening the lugs with a torque wrench can prevent the rotors from getting an induced warp. When a shop pulls any wheels, I will recheck them after a bad experience many years ago that introduced me to torque wrenches.

Of course, rotors can warp from a couple other causes.

 

I typically do whenever I take them off myself but its still great advice!

 

Thanks!


Hopefully the new ones go the distance for you.

 

Interesting. I see many tire shops just use the impact and torque it to 3 or 4 ugh a dugas. Of course I'm thinking of finding a new tire shop next time around because they lost 2 lug nuts on one wheel, one on another and over torqued them last time I had the Jeep in for a rotation months ago.
Had to replace them myself and use a 25" breaker bar to change a flat. Don't want my new Tacoma treated like that.

 

A couple ugga duggas can be okay, as long as each lug rotates a bit when torquing to the final value. Some specs say that tools should not produce more than half the final torque and the fastener should make a smooth half turn before reaching the rated torque value, but that is a bit on the science end of things.

The unfortunate part is that we can't observe at most shops, so other than redoing lugs each time, I do spot checks. It was hard accepting the dealer maint plan on my wife's Subaru, but the shop did really good work. As did my dealer during the ToyotaCare period. Our last few vehicle purchases have changed my opinion. Shops around here seem to be catching on to the concerns.

Still, at home is my preferred shop.


For your experience, I would definitely be looking at a new place.

 

I'm very persnickety, but I tend to follow the recommendations based on severe conditions (which include towing and city driving). I also try to get on an mixed up schedule. So I can alternate services. Like, I'll do the Rear Diff at the first 15,000 miles, but do the Front Diff at the next Oil Change, so It'll take place at 20,000 miles. That way I don't end up with a $1,000 service, but each service ends up around $150, $200.

Oh, and those of you with ATs. Seriously, follow the Severe conditions interval. Which I think is 60,000 miles - your transmission will shift like new again.

So I follow this schedule:

 

FWIW Some shops use colored extensions on their impacts which will stop the gun once it reaches the torque of that extension. Generally they come in different colors to represent different torque specs.

 

Yeah I agree with that, the thing is they always beat others prices and don't give me static about using a larger than factory tire on a lifted vehicle. So many chain places only want to sell you the OEM size in their book or computer. I really don’t like the poor service they are giving its gone down in recent years. can't have lugnuts missing and some over torqued. Definitely will find a new shop when its time for truck tires.