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3rd Gen Automatic to manual swap

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Eagleye_Eighty, Oct 2, 2020.

  1. Oct 3, 2020 at 12:48 AM
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    caribe makaira

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    Not having an input to the Neutral/Parking settings of the auto transmission for the Certification ECU can be substituted and the shift lock ECU is not needed, but I'm sure there's lots more to do.
     
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  2. Oct 3, 2020 at 4:53 AM
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    One of the only things I can think of that rapidly makes a truck worth less money is this.

    Wow. I'm blown away that anyone would consider this with a 1yr old truck.
     
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  3. Oct 3, 2020 at 6:42 AM
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    Probably easier to just swap the ECM.
     
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  4. Oct 3, 2020 at 6:43 AM
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    Why does it matter how much money it’s “worth”? I personally don’t plan on selling or trading my truck. So it’s value is meaningless to me.
     
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  5. Oct 3, 2020 at 6:47 AM
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    Maybe keep the front wheels attached to the auto, and put in a second, manual transmission in the bed, run off a belt from the T-case, to run the rear wheels?
     
  6. Oct 3, 2020 at 7:01 AM
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    Do it.....sure you wont have any warranty on the drivetrain anymore but I want to see someone do the conversion. Save all your bills so we can see how astronomical the final cost is in the end.
     
  7. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:09 AM
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    Either way he didn’t ask us the make the decision for him. I’m give him accurate information from a source that has actually done a conversion like this. I won’t speculate about something I have no first hand knowledge of. Then I’ll let him make the decision for himself. Whatever he decides doesn’t have to make sense to me.
     
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  8. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:12 AM
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    If you sold it and bought a manual, you'd probably be out less money on the depreciation of both than what it would cost you to do the conversion.
     
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  9. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:41 AM
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    Sell it. Be patient and buy the truck you actually wanted in the first place. It may take a bit to find a manual, but I bet it takes less time than swapping out the transmission.
     
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  10. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:46 AM
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    You forgot about TTL fees. Those are more of a killer than depreciation. I did my manual conversion for ~$1800. Taxes alone is about $2500 for me.
     
  11. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:48 AM
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    yep. but it seems from that 'plug n play' comment/question that he doesn't realize he's talking to an experienced builder. so, :popcorn:
     
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  12. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:58 AM
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    I wonder how much more complicated/expensive a 3G would be
     
  13. Oct 3, 2020 at 9:51 AM
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    Just go buy a MT model, geez........

    Use the time saved for higher priorities like off roading, cool mods, drinking beer or family.
     
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    Swapping the mechanical hardware is pretty straight forward, what's going to cost you the most headaches is reprogramming the computers. Took the BMW guys the better part of a decade to sort it all out so the cars would run correctly after a swap.

    This makes sense when the flappy paddle gearbox costs more than the car is worth to replace, but on a new truck with crazy residuals I don't see much sanity in this one.

    I have transmission swapped my other 4 cars, so I have a little bit of a clue on this one.
     
  16. Oct 3, 2020 at 10:24 AM
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  17. Oct 3, 2020 at 10:45 AM
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    You can probably just swap to the manual ECM. For me this was the easiest part of the conversion.
     
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    I’d wager on an OR this might cause it to freak out more with the crwal control and all that stuff of course I guess you could simp,y bypass/disable it but really it sounds like a lot more cost and effort than just looking for a manual and trading fwiw
     
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  19. Oct 3, 2020 at 11:05 AM
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    Thank you! So many people in it for the short term, it seems.
     
  20. Oct 3, 2020 at 2:23 PM
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    had to buy it when i could get the 0% interest forever due to covid.
     

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