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3rd Gen Automatic to manual swap

Discussion in '3rd Gen. Tacomas (2016-2023)' started by Eagleye_Eighty, Oct 2, 2020.

  1. Oct 3, 2020 at 8:33 PM
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    Hey I was wondern if anyone has a suggestion on fitting some 35" tires on my new Prius. They don't make an OR but I just loved em hybrids man. Also thinking about a 12k winch but only if I can run it off the battery pack and if it doesn't make my front end sag or require cutting the bumper.

    BTW, would you go with OEM Tacoma TRD Pro or cheap eBay grill on the Prius? Will it require modifications?

    I searched for the search bar for like a half second but couldn't find it.
     
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  2. Oct 3, 2020 at 9:16 PM
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    Can someone help me swap two Tesla electric motors to my tacoma?
     
  3. Oct 3, 2020 at 9:33 PM
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    I know it works with a 2nd gen. Everything you want to do works with a 2nd gen.
     
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  4. Oct 3, 2020 at 9:35 PM
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    Would probably work on a 3rd gen if one of you had the balls to do it. :duel:
     
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    You did gen 2. How different is gen 3 with all the changes? If you do junkyard swap from a 2019-2020 then it's fine. Anything else is going to be a problem and costly because electronics.
     
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  6. Oct 3, 2020 at 9:47 PM
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    Then again perhaps drinking bleach might cure covid.

    If I wanted a second gen I would have bought one with full time 4x4. Oh ya, I did but it was called an FJ. Cruiser.

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  7. Oct 3, 2020 at 9:48 PM
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    None of that matters because.....balls.

    It takes allot of balls to encourage someone else to make risky foolish modifications to their truck.
     
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  8. Oct 4, 2020 at 2:30 AM
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    its amazing that anyone would even take a foolish idea like this and think it can be even become reality, [​IMG]
     
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    OP is equivalent of an ' Atention Getter '

    buys want he doesnt like / want

    takes everyone else to task when they dont agree

    if he were truly passionate about changing reinventing his taco

    he would already be 1/2 way thru his build

    taking photos & accumulating high 5s

    NOT a Starbux argument with everyone that can only see it as an

    as inane &

    an excercise in futilty

    he would already have parts ordered

    grease under his fingernails

    WD40 wafting in the air
     
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    Just reading this thread, and honest question here, what exactly is different in the ECMs of the auto vs manual? Presumably, it controls the gear shifts in the auto, but if a manual was swapped in without any changes and it "thought" it was in neutral, and all other inputs were satisfied, then why won't this work with a manual transmission?
     
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    I think you are thinking it would be like splicing two wires together with a wire nut to fool it into thinking it's in neutral. I think it would be more like re-writing code and bricking the PCM. The 3G is a computer with a wheel at each corner. OVTune can attest to it's complexity.
     
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    WTF are you talking about? Are you intentionally being hyperbolic? How is comparing drinking bleach even remotely the same as doing something that reasonably well documented? The 3rd gen isn’t really much different then the 2nd gen. It’s been done a bunch on a 2nd gen and we can figure out how to do it on a 3rd gen. Also, do you take all comments out of context or only the ones that make you look the most ridiculous?
     
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    I didn’t encourage him to do anything. He asked for information not an opinion. For some reason people around here don’t know the difference.
     
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    The ECM goes in to limp mode if the transmission inputs are missing.
     
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    It would likely be easier to swap to the manual version of the ECM. After that it would be exactly like splicing a few wires together.
     
  17. Oct 4, 2020 at 6:17 AM
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    He asked about using an auto PCM. I don't think anyone knows what a 3G will do. Comparing a 2G PCM to a 3G PCM is like comparing a horse and buggy to a space ship, for better or worse.
     
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    OP can’t do this. His auto has push start, no manual comes with a push start. So a manual ECM would not work with push start. If you install manual ECM on a truck that has push start it will either not turn on, or act like the truck is broken into.

    OP can also install regular key start( which would be difficult on its own without triggering anti-theft system). But he stated push start is one of the things he liked in his current truck.
     
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    The limited and SR5 both use the same engine ECM (assuming they are both auto). Obviously, the ECM for the manual is different, which wasn't offered as an option on the limited. It still stands to reason that the manual ECM could be swapped in. Still waiting on the full wiring diagram to confirm the push button start among other things.
     
  20. Oct 4, 2020 at 6:26 AM
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    Are you taking an educated guess at this or do you know for fact? I don't see why the engine ECM cares whether the 12v signal comes from a key cylinder or from a button. But there could be some hidden crap going on to pass the signal.
     

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