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Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by EatSleepTacos, Jun 5, 2017.

  1. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:32 AM
    EatSleepTacos

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    Yes just using the supplied fittings and hose. They're all designed to work together and not leak at all.

    In my digging this morning I found that ARB recently started supplying a thicker-walled hose (the black hose) so it's much more durable. When properly routed and protected from heat there shouldn't be any issues.
     
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  3. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:37 AM
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    That's the line that came with mine. For the rear lines I ran it along the hard brake lines on the axle to the brake hoses and then ziptied to the brake hose to use it as a support and kind of a protector. The front I ran just ziptied to the hard brake lines in the frame. Since I have my compressor mounted in the passenger front corner of my bed in a plastic ammo can. I was thinking of the braided hose mainly for the rear since it has to articulate and is a lot more exposed to potential abrasion and damage.
     
  4. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:37 AM
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    Those look just like the fittings supplied with the hose that I got. Seriously, I would recommend just using the supplied black hose. Just use this near the headers.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001HYQO30/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    The way I route my hose, I go right down into a frame hole next to the headers and then route it back in the frame rail to the rear axle. Only a small portion of the hose will be exposed to heat and the stuff I linked will work great. That's what I had on the ARB hose when I was actuating it off my powertank.
     
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  5. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:39 AM
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    Someone in another thread suggested taking some normal 3/8" air hose, like you'd use on a shop compressor, and routing the arb line through that. Just another layer of protection. I thought that was a good idea.
     
  6. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:54 AM
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    This is what I was looking at, that's a good idea too. I guess I am more worried with the "flexibleness" of that black hose over time compared to the stainless. It not kinking or collapsing on it's self and getting a leak or failure to engage/disengage.
    https://arbusa.com/site/wp-content/uploads/Air-Systems_no-map.pdf
     
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  7. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:56 AM
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    You could always run the black plastic hose back through the frame and above the axle and then connect a braided line to it that drops down to the axle. Like the hard brake lines. That would be cool and pretty easy.
     
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  8. Oct 8, 2020 at 7:58 AM
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    Yeah that's true all I'd really need was a couple of bulkhead fittings possibly.
     
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  9. Oct 8, 2020 at 2:38 PM
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    It’s confirmed that the front diff leak is internal. I sprayed the diff breather with soapy water and it’s pressurizing it. I really don’t want to deal with the front diff and shipping again so I’m going to make a trip to ecgs and let them deal with it. That won’t happen until baby is a monthish old though and mother in law is here to help out.
     
  10. Oct 8, 2020 at 2:46 PM
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    Well that's just sucky. I could drive it down for you, if you trust my nunchuck skills.
     
  11. Oct 8, 2020 at 2:49 PM
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    I appreciate the offer. I’m thankful it’s nothing time sensitive since it’ll only occur infrequently off-road. With no trips pending, I have some time to get it worked out.
     
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  12. Oct 8, 2020 at 2:50 PM
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    I was only half-serious! I mean, if you had said yes I would've done it.....
     
  13. Oct 8, 2020 at 2:59 PM
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    Is the TJM air locker supposedly a better product?
     
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  14. Oct 8, 2020 at 3:01 PM
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    Allegedly, yes, due to the seal design. But if this is leaking this soon after install, my money is on an installation error not the seal failing with age/wear.
     
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    I was just curious. It's a little less money than the ARB.
     
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    That sucks. Have you sent them an email yet? But was one of the worries I had with mine. I weighed getting the elockers but at an extra 600+ for 2 it's crazy money and there are some downsides looking at the ARB to the elocker side by side.
     
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    ARB redid their seal design, the supplier, and material to supposedly eliminate this issue. I would reckon you are right with installation error.
     
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  18. Oct 8, 2020 at 4:07 PM
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    No not yet. I will tomorrow when I'm at work. For me the biggest con to the harrop e locker was how it momentarily unlocks if you roll backwards. In a manual, I'm going to be rolling back all the time.

    I hope it actually fixes it this time. I've seen this song and dance a few times now.
     
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  19. Oct 8, 2020 at 4:55 PM
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    .packs pitchfork and torch.
     
  20. Oct 8, 2020 at 5:37 PM
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    Yeah the rolling back thing without actually using it or seeing it in person I won't comment on how that works. I was speaking more looking at the way they lock up the Air lockers are more robust looking at the cutaways and the break downs.

    Yeah I questioned ECGS when I was pricing mine out and they assured me they hadn't been seeing issues since the "remake". I also did a lot of research on that too and it seems with both the ARB and the TJM they can be finicky on install so it could of been a slight misstep in installation too. That's what one shop was seeing a lot of "repairs" for ARBs not even from their shop but others was misinstallation.

    Fingers crossed that's all it is and it works out seeing the horrors of the leaks and talking to some guys that have had the issues it is always something that's on the back of my mind. I know it's not something you want to be mucking with all the time.
     
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