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Fitting 35’s with minimal trimming NOW ADDING LONG TRAVEL AND 934 CV’s

Discussion in '2nd Gen. Builds (2005-2015)' started by 81Trekker, Aug 25, 2019.

  1. Oct 9, 2020 at 7:52 PM
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    Dalandser

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    Nothing personal, it’s that things that were built nicely weren’t designed with blanket generalizations. Some situations could benefit based on unique design parameters.
     
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  3. Oct 9, 2020 at 9:04 PM
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    Whenever you weld sleeved tubes angles eliminate stress risers. Angled overlay plates eliminate stress risers too but it’s all circumstantial

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  4. Oct 9, 2020 at 9:31 PM
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    ok, who here has done work on real stuff? anyone here build 6100 door slammers? race trucks? have you seen their website and their projects? I'd guess that's probably less than 10% of their total builds. G'head and tell us what's wrong with all their work and how you'd do it or heard it done differently.

    How in the world do you all get off on nit picking a non issue? seriously that mount is way way stronger than anything that's gonna go through it. How weak do you think that weld is? one side of that mount is stronger than the damn truck weighs.

    the whole front would have to be seriously twisted and wrecked before that plate fails and that would be the least my problems.

    edit/ missed a sentence: The frame there isn't at risk, I'm more concerned about the damn crumple zone forward of the wheels than whatever issue you think is weakening anything behind it.
     
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  5. Oct 9, 2020 at 10:15 PM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    Well I certainly don’t think you have done any of that sort of work, hence the reason you chose a more than qualified shop to work on your truck. That said, I sincerely apologize for tagging you in a clearly sarcastic post on the internet and drawing your attention to a couple of folks attempting to have a discussion where both can possibly benefit from a potential learning experience.

    If JD Fab and Mr Harry are truly annoyed by the experience had on this forum, they will simply leave, as they were probably doing just fine with business prior to this thread starting a year ago. But I personally think Mr Harry is mostly enjoying his time here both educating us and giving the shop a reason to push out some easily replicable Toyota specific parts.

    And another that said, I will one day prove to @81Trekker that a 2nd gen Tacoma can not only make it 50+ ft up any Hammers trail, but I am willing to make a full attempt up backdoor. I think we can all agree 2020 didn’t go their way so maybe next year I’ll get out there for my attempt. I’ll have a trailer soon to bring the truck home for a gone wrong attempt and so long as we don’t roll, the wife won’t be too upset if we break a part or two. (Hopefully not steering related after the soon to come upgrades.)
     
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  6. Oct 9, 2020 at 10:55 PM
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    The guys at the shop reading these 'discussions'.

     
  7. Oct 9, 2020 at 11:00 PM
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    snowsk8air2 how hard can it be?

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    Exactly, and as good human beings, they will reply/ respond accordingly partially based on their state of mind. Mine of which now is compromised by whiskey
     
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    careful man! I can see your JD hard on from here!

    There was no issue to nitpick. We all know jd and Harry are experts in the field, that's why we're here. We all came here to learn. Somebody had a question about why the plate was angled. I brought up something I've been told, some other guys pointed out some possible flaws in the idea. I think that what I said still has merit in certain situations, but not across the board as was shown.

    Your truck is gunna be sweet. You can rest easy knowing we are all jealous. More pictures please.
     
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    damn straight I'm happier than what's probably considered healthy, and I think it's wholely on point for what's happening in that shop. Was there in person, got to see these rigs and builds, peak under the unmentionables...I'd be worried if you didn't feel stimulated in the no no places after that.

    Harry's words. This isn't work, I get to show up every day and have fun and do what I love.

    And then you see the products, and it becomes patently obvious. They only work on what they like, and they choose their clients. Not the other way around. I'm super appreciative of getting time in their shop. y'all only know the half of it. lol
     
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    write drunk, edit sober. -hemingway :rofl:
     
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  11. Oct 10, 2020 at 4:31 AM
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    Does outlaw 10.5, late model, grand stock, some NASA/SCCA cars, and some back halved old drag cars count. Asking for a friend :anonymous:
    Those experiences do lend some into all fabrication. But how we set up and build suspensions and other parts of the car is completely different than any of this stuff the basic theory is the same but that's it. I've learned a ton from others on here that have differing experiences and skills in this realm. Like that sleeved cage tube deal I would of never thought of that but in the rule books that we were dealing with that was a no no same with the # of bends in the main hoop etc. that would of failed tech but OK in this arena (it may of actually worked for the drag cars). I learned something and then when he added to the conversation here about doing them on the angles it helps add to the actual conversation that was being discussed and showed/explained the reasoning. Hell the caster gain and loss in suspension travel due to the antidive angle of our UCA. In my world we didn't have to worry with that because the suspension traveled maybe 4" tops nothing really that affected us.

    What we were commenting on and didn't say 100% one way or the other was a generic statement about the plate but could be considered either way. You are getting too defensive and but hurt over the smallest of things never once was it indicated that it was wrong or going to have failures at the plate. Giving different perspective and understanding that not everything is cut and dry and some things like what Harry said originally was because he thought it looked better from the initial question (which it really does). For a fabricator to think about aesthetics also and not just hell get this on make it strong and functional and roll it out the door says something about what type of place it really is.

    Example when back halving a car our plates that we would as a overlay gussets would be angled like yours for your shock hoop to get more linear length of weld on the face of the frame for more strength and that coincides with what @WormSquirts was pointing out.

    I'll put this out there look at Jesse James for instance the man has literally built and done everything in fabrication from bikes to baja to firearms yet he still goes out and learns from others. Reiterate in no way were any of us knocking Harry or his work.
     
  12. Oct 10, 2020 at 5:37 AM
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    soooo all that for....nothing.
     
  13. Oct 10, 2020 at 5:59 AM
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    So what you are saying is you see one thing take it out of context and run with it gotcha.
     
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    Not to derail the uhhh party, but does anyone know how/where the limit straps mount on the LT kit? The pictures posted on their website show a hydro bump, which I'm not planning on running (yet?), so I want to make sure things are going to fit right.

    Just waiting on a final quote then ready to place my order :spending:
     
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    So then you shouldn't of had your tantrum rant. This is a public forum where sub discussions pop up all the time on every thread especially the very technical ones like this.
     
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    The limit straps mount on the outside of the bypass tabs all the way towards the rear and clear the OE bumps no problem
     
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    Damn boys every time I leave this thread for more than eight hours you manage to let it devolve into a shit show. How about we all have a gentlemen’s agreement to leave the arguing for the BS threads and your own build threads...or I will personally start following each of you and every time you post anything anywhere on this forum I will respond by asking you how many threads are showing on your struts so you don’t rub your 265’s on your mud flaps...

    I’m stuck at home with a newborn I’ve got nothin’ but time...
     
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    Catch 22 because by commenting telling people not to post BS, you're adding to the BS.

    It's like the reply-all email storms. People will reply-all telling people to stop hitting reply-all. They're so entertaining.
     
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    How many threads are showing on yourstruts so you don’t rub your 265’s on your mud flaps ?
     
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