thoughts on a lift 2020 Tacoma

let me know if someone sees this I am interested in a small lift and would like input on a 2020 Tocoma

 

If only there weren't countless threads discussing this or a nifty box at the top called search. Crazy, if only...

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-lift-faq-guide-read-this.11282/

 

well great you know alot more than me, I am new and just trying to ask questions. post with pictures are nice with mods you made try clicking and no links come up for what you did.

 

Dude look at the link I gave you and start there, there are a GAZZILION options to lift these trucks and people have been doing it for decades. I get you're new and welcome, but a little initiative and searching will find you your answer rather than starting a thread.

 

What is your budget? That is a good start

 

Dude I looked at those Gazzilion links and a Gazzilion more on the internet I do thank you, I am an older gentalman and learning these electronics and after going back an reading what I asked and your response I belive I have asked my question wrong so please don't jump out of your seat. I do know what a lift is suspension vs body and now they have leveling. I had a 71 RAM Charger I put a 4" suspension lift on in the day and drove it everywhere. So let me try and word this correctly I have a 2020 Tacoma that I would like to rasie about 2-3" inches (suspension) I have one son telling me no just level it, and another son telling me to do a 3/1 lift(front to back) I do not understand all of this and was looking for someone else's input. I have read about these compared and they all seem to be descent option. So without calling me Dude could you please voice an opionion
A confused oldman on new technology

THANK-YOU

 

You will get hate before help. Get to know the search feature, although it could be a pain sometimes. There’s a lot of useful info to be had. After you’re done reading, if you still have questions, post back here.

 

What's your plans for the truck? That's a good start!

 

Thank you c2tm I am trying to understand these different options now in my day you had suspension lift vs body lift.

 

https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/tacoma-lift-faq-guide-read-this.11282/
First post.... in the quote
2nd gen and 3rd gen are virtually the same

 

my plans are that I have had this truck for about 3 months now every weekend I go out for 3-12 hours in the desert 2000 -10000 feet at times need a little more clearance looking how to find that

 

Try this again
First Of all let me go over some basic terminology for truck.

Coilover: A coilover refers to the front coil spring and shock assembly. They are built as one unit, unlike a spring and shock suspension which are 2 seperate parts.

Shock: A shock is an oil or gas filled piston unit that when installed are designed to resists quick or shocking movement.


UCA: Are the Upper Control Arms of your front IFS (Independent front suspension) Mainly responsible for the vertical alignment of the front spindles. (For the most part it is non- load bearing)

LCA: Are the Lower Control Arms of the front IFS. This is the part that will see most of the load in you front suspension. It works in unison with the UCA.

Add-A-Leaf Or commonly referred to as AAL's! these are additional springs that are excessively arched to provide additional lift or support to the rear of our trucks. (They maybe used in the front of some vehicles but NOT ours!)


Leaf Pack: Leaf packs are just that a replacement "set" of leaf springs designed to have a better spring rate, and in some cases add lift or additional load capacity.

Alignment I'm sure everyone has heard of alignment. Every car or turk need their alignment check periodically. Alignment is very important in determining the performance characteristics of a vehicle.

Caster: is the angle that your front tire are tilted in relation to the steering axis!

Camber: Camber is the angle that you tires are in relation to the vertical axis when viewed from the front of the vehicle.

Toe: Toe is the angle at which your front tire turn in or out in relationship to each other.

Here is a good link to help understand your alignment:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete...e.jsp?techid=4


First off lifts!

There are several types of lifts offered for our trucks. We'll start with the least costly. I will touch on Spacer lift kits, Coil lift kits, and Coilover lift kits. Also I will try to provide links, as they are applicable.

Options for the front!

Bilstien 5100's This is a great affordable lift kit. These replacement shocks are great to add a few inches to the front of your Tacoma, it is adjustable and have a slightly better valving system than the stock shocks that come with the Tacoma's. (But please take note NO One recommends it to be used in conjunction with after market coils) This may result in damage of your suspension components.

Pro Basic kit from Toytec: $209.99
Spacer Lifts: These are spacers made primarily out of aluminum. They are installed on top of your coils and also on top of the strut plate.

There are spacers from Ready Lifts: http://www.readylift.com/

This is a link to how these lifts are installed in the front: OME coils lift kits from Toytec: $299.98
This kit comes with replacement coils for the front, 884 or 885's. These are longer replacement coils, which also come with a 1/2" Aluminum spacer. The Install will be basically the same as the spacer kit. (Link posted above)


Coilover lift kit: $1050.00 Free s/h
(DR Coilovers) Most common. Others are available such as Sway-A-way, Fabtech, All Pro, and Camburg to name a few?
These are the high end of the 3" lifts. Extremely easy to install, due to the fact they come already assembled. It is simply a matter of remove and replace. They are also very versatile, in that they are adjustable. Therefore can be adjusted to fit your needs.

Exclusive for 2wd
Allied spindles, these spindles will yield 4" lift for your 2wd Tacoma. They cannot be used on a 4x4.
http://amsuspensions.com/4_lift_spindle_2005_tacoma.htm

REAR Lifts options:

First off you have:
Lift blocks:
These are blocks of metal that are placed under you rear leaf packs, on top of your axles. The kit includes the lift blocks and longer U-bolts. This is the most basic of the rear lifts and adds NO additional benefits other than height.

Add-A-Leafs
This type of lift consists of an additional Leaf spring that has an increased arc. They added lift by increasing the curve of your rear stock spring pack. They also allow added load capacity for hauling.

This is the instructions for the AAL rear install: Leaf Packs:
This type of rear lift is the high end of rear lifts.
Consists of a new multiple spring pack. Provides lift, a smoother spring rate. May add or decrease carrying capacity depending on the spring characteristics.

This rear lift is also fairly simple to do since they come pre-assembled. Simply R&R.

These lifts can be found at: Here is a link to Alcan:
http://www.alcanspring.com/making.htm

Body Lift $325.95 http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...scon/5603.html
This is a lift that is Achieved by adding spacers to the body mounting points. This lift essentially increases the distance between the frame and the cab. This lift requires other parts such as fuel line extension, bumper brackets, and larger fender skirts to hide the increased gap, between the fender and the frame. You will also need to extend the steering unit.

CT link basically cover same info:
http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?article=137


Upper Control "A" arms (UCA's)

UCA's are The A arms at the top of your Indipendant Front Suspension

I will cover 2 Brands Camburg, and Total Chaos. There are others like All Pro or DR, but since I have No first hand experience with these I'll let others chime in on them.

Camburg UCA's: from my experience, and from what Camburg has informed me about, were designed to give greater clearance to accommodate larger coil over coils. They are NOT designed to correct alignment issues, caused by the addition of a 3" lift.

Total Chaos: These are UCA's specifically designed to help correct the alignment issue caused by the addition of a 3" lift.

All Pro: Are also designed to correct Alignment issues.

Here are some links to read in reguards to UCA's.

Install:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171569.html
Non-sense reading:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t186179.html
Problems with Camburg
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t171670.html
Comparison:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t173282.html

Wheels and tire:
(Thanks to MrGrimm)
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t184562.html

Wheel Spacers (If you would like to run your stock rims? I recommend these)
http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/p...dproduct=10887


Q&A links
Can you use your stock shocks with a coil lift?

YES! But remember with a 3" lift the stock shocks will only have about 1" of down travel.
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t189189.html

Bilstein 5100: This lift is also at it's full extent it will have only about 1" of down travel.

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t182621.html

Both of these lifts are limited by the length of the shock. Both will have a jarring sensation when traveling over bumps at speed.

OME makes longer shocks which are designed for a 3" lift. This will allow better articulation of your suspension. BUT! Remember with the increased travel you will need longer brake lines.

"possible issues"

-After you lift your truck, and find that at speed it wanders all over the road?
-You need a set of UCA's to correct you alignment.

-Remember that mostly everything you alter on your truck's suspension will have an affect on other components.

-Excessive wear on CV boots due to increased angle.
-You can install a differential drop.

-Rear drive line vibration or shudder.
-Carrier bearing drop. (IMHO not a good idea)
-Tom Woods one piece drive shaft. (So far this seems to be the only cure)

Tire rubbing:

Although the height is increased with a lift? The size of the wheel/fender opening remains the same.
So in actuality the stock 265's are the biggest tire that can articulate and clear through 98% of the suspensions range of movement.

The 285's is more for aesthetics and looks rather than serious offroading.

If you choose to run 285's, with a 3" lift, and you want to do some serious offroading? Then you may need to cut away a portion of you front body mount, to allow the tire free movement while doing full turns.

But don't be mistaken with this set up you can still do some great offroading! You just may encounter some rubbing of your tires.

Please take everything I have stated with a "grain of salt" and decide for yourself!

Good Luck!

 

The pinned threads need to be cleaned up and new members need to see a proper break down.

 

Agreed. This popped up on the main wall tonight and seemed to fit the bill of op's requirements all in one.

 

The mods are too busy looking for a reason to throw down the hammer.
With that being said, see you guys in a day or two haha

 

ok thats great and thank-you
I guess I did not ask right again
lets say we were sitting around a bar and talking we were all bull shitting to what WE thought was the best on the options I presented
does anyone have a personnel thought?

 

I'm want to buy you a fucking beer. This shit needs to be sticky.

*insert gif of a the highest of fives*

 

Not hate, happy to help, but a bit frustrating seeing these threads everyday along with what size tires, etc. when a quick search or browse anyone would find endless information to get started. Happy to help, but gotta have a bit of initiative too and some understanding especially with the given topic's expansiveness.

 

Context is sometimes difficult on the interwebs especially across generations so I get it. We just see tons of these threads everyday and gets a bit frustrating as you can imagine. I guess the first question would be what size tires do you need for clearance? Both son's are techniquely right, hell with these trucks in stock trim you are pretty good to go with some decent tires. Tire size will definitely dictate if you need to go level or higher. Of course the higher you go then you'll have to address proper alignment with UCAs, etc, etc.

 

It is stickied in the suspension section, its the same link I posted intially to OP.